tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-75872182775355674552024-03-26T12:00:31.559+01:00DJ0WHWayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comBlogger497125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-4933196214997562522024-03-26T12:00:00.002+01:002024-03-26T12:00:00.147+01:00Config Error: Service Code 0802<div style="text-align: justify;"><b><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0ynN5cCcYKul5FVDj2I3yENQONsir-Htw0U6bUYuvA_rgsvZPFVZx7PF1Q6Scf_y3eOXGV-JY_HfW2khOECSO4vYrxolAxgtW_PQjN1WLIkc9flisAayRyOBYAbM-tCCR0FZodgyNjWdcXNftOjk4UQPkGAkQ4JvJKFyEh6LncnfEBdfunB6MA0toPd_e/s7952/mototrbo-elgin-2021-0101_edit-copy.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="5304" data-original-width="7952" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0ynN5cCcYKul5FVDj2I3yENQONsir-Htw0U6bUYuvA_rgsvZPFVZx7PF1Q6Scf_y3eOXGV-JY_HfW2khOECSO4vYrxolAxgtW_PQjN1WLIkc9flisAayRyOBYAbM-tCCR0FZodgyNjWdcXNftOjk4UQPkGAkQ4JvJKFyEh6LncnfEBdfunB6MA0toPd_e/s16000/mototrbo-elgin-2021-0101_edit-copy.jpeg" /></a></div></b><b><span style="font-size: large;">[Q]</span></b> I've updated to the latest CPS2, 2.146.122. This was the only way I was able to read/write to some newer radios that came through our shop. I opened a very simple 9 channel analog archive of our customer's, which worked fine in earlier versions. In this latest CPS2, I was able to write the codeplug successfully, but now I'm getting a "Config Error: Service Code 0802" voice announcement every time I power on the radio. In the error codes it calls this "Invalid authentication configuration service". The troubleshooting guide suggests factory resetting the radio, among other things. Am I going to be back where I started if I try to clone this same archive again after a refresh? What exactly is causing the issue when I'm just putting in a simple conventional archive? I have to assume the latest CPS changed something.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[A]</b></span> Service Code 0802 serves as a password configuration error to inform the user that one of the following passwords might have been misconfigured:</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">- Authenticated Radio Disable/Enable</div><div style="text-align: justify;">- Authenticated Remote Monitor Passphrase</div><div style="text-align: justify;">- Capacity Max Master Authentication Key</div><div style="text-align: justify;">- Front Programming Password</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">The change was made in M2023.01 as part of a wider security initiative and prompts the technician to change the above passwords/passphrases, when these features are enabled for the first time. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">In some cases, an invalid password/passphrase could be written to a radio which could result in one or more of the above features not to work securely. In this case, the service code is there to inform the user that there is a problem. The service codes, and their solution, are listed in the <a href="https://learning.motorolasolutions.com/zh-hans/node/77891/download" target="_blank">MOTOTRBO™ Radios Service Codes Troubleshooting Guide MN009539A01</a>.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">If you are not using any of the above features, the way to solve it is:</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">If Radio Disable Decode is disabled, make sure that Authenticated Radio Disable/Enable is also Disabled. Otherwise, enable (tick) Radio Disable Decode.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Set Authenticated Remote Monitor to disabled.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">If you are using either Authenticated Radio Disable/Enable or Authenticated Remote Monitor, make sure to set the passphrase accordingly.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">The Capacity Max Master Authentication Key is only needed when Authentication of Radios by System is enabled - and of course, only if Capacity Max trunking is used.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">If you are using any of these features, you need to make sure the password/key/passphrase is set.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Service Codes were introduced in M2022.03. I will write another post about this.</div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-43860767135649081652024-03-19T12:00:00.000+01:002024-03-19T14:31:03.869+01:00DP4800 won't transmit to DM4600 when using split frequencies.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivURH3ClXid7rhi-BwY7g-vJsBLRoVQpXWkQv8iPsXz7f3nU5RSbPD3Lk8T39AWY3wwFeAZaM2ql7qEJ3iNmpNRB71NAtZMXT0EalbfviiJarlkEU6DHoHoFYhpvbxvbx7Ei6tonFBIhy9aA2kzL4tYI74wpj1RKGtSlDV2fJzGpmhgd9Zut7YMBJpBMZi/s2048/dmr-ai-bursts.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1089" data-original-width="2048" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivURH3ClXid7rhi-BwY7g-vJsBLRoVQpXWkQv8iPsXz7f3nU5RSbPD3Lk8T39AWY3wwFeAZaM2ql7qEJ3iNmpNRB71NAtZMXT0EalbfviiJarlkEU6DHoHoFYhpvbxvbx7Ei6tonFBIhy9aA2kzL4tYI74wpj1RKGtSlDV2fJzGpmhgd9Zut7YMBJpBMZi/s16000/dmr-ai-bursts.png" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[Q]</b></span> We build our own semi-duplex interfaces with two DM4600 radios. We have the problem that the DP4800 won´t transmit to the RX DM4600. There is a forbidden sound. If we replace our own interface with a SLR5500 repeater, it works perfect. Is there any feedback from a slr 5500 in digital semi-duplex mode that a DM4600 is not supporting? [...]<div><br /></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[A]</b></span> MOTOTRBO radios do not support the configuration of a direct mode channel that has different transmit and receive frequencies. When these frequencies are different, the channel is defined as a repeater channel and the radio expects to communicate with a repeater.</div><div><br /></div><div>When transmitting via a repeater, the radio gets synchronisation signalling (and other stuff) back from the repeater which tells it that the transmission was received and can continue. The mobile is not able to produce this signaling and this is why the call fails in your case.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-23664503964068317642024-03-12T12:00:00.005+01:002024-03-12T12:00:00.136+01:00I can’t make bricks without clay!<p><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOZEfFcPJXGQCZRvfvAMsr5ovmlChYxpd_fYocTdE0qhjS-6SZFDacVb4glGy_HytZkw3p3BJSGe9XC3AsLG7q7kncyCXF7Tmfbh3qik7xMazx_3BQPJfDZYLPPC22bhPl7HhuwFhdpgW86E4qoA7ThTKsDrZQOwFX0hI_Z4srbp6OwSPVIiBGTMGsIt9Q/s12806/Single-RM-with-MultipleDPandMNIS.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="9100" data-original-width="12806" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOZEfFcPJXGQCZRvfvAMsr5ovmlChYxpd_fYocTdE0qhjS-6SZFDacVb4glGy_HytZkw3p3BJSGe9XC3AsLG7q7kncyCXF7Tmfbh3qik7xMazx_3BQPJfDZYLPPC22bhPl7HhuwFhdpgW86E4qoA7ThTKsDrZQOwFX0hI_Z4srbp6OwSPVIiBGTMGsIt9Q/s16000/Single-RM-with-MultipleDPandMNIS.jpg" /></a></span></div><p></p><p><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"><b>[Q]</b></span><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"> </span><span style="text-align: justify;">On Remote Management, I can ping the radio thru the base radio gateway over the air to the portable, but I cannot program the radio thru the device programmer. I am stuck.</span></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[A]</b></span> Please have a look at <a href="https://youtu.be/w9-N5Xdqm-o?si=A_7H8fJLi5bqOpok" target="_blank">this video</a> as well as <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18iiwHRjjt-giDDBipwbPzah0FWysIZQLDZ-4B_K_So0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">this document</a>. The <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18iiwHRjjt-giDDBipwbPzah0FWysIZQLDZ-4B_K_So0/edit#heading=h.7zds6axd9oxp">last section</a> of the document has some tips on troubleshooting.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">As a side note:</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />Some years ago, there used to be a weekly medical show on a talk radio station I listened to. Some listeners used to call in, list their symptoms and ask the <a href="https://www.702.co.za/articles/491014/national-treasure-harry-seftel-dies-at-94">doctor (who was actually a Professor)</a> for a diagnosis. His response was almost always for them to contact their GP.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">I'm definitely not a medical professional, but it's just as difficult for me to provide an accurate diagnosis without a complete understanding of the problem. Just like your GP, I would need to do various tests and ask many questions. Also, solving technical problems is not really my area of expertise (anymore) so if some investigative work is needed, you would need to speak to someone from <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/p/support.html">the support team</a> who do this every day and know what to look for.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">In nearly all cases, it's not possible for me to offer one on one consultations for just anyone. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">"I can’t make bricks without clay!" is a quote from the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle story <i>The Adventure of the Copper Beeches.</i></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-48080398680210566542024-03-05T12:00:00.005+01:002024-03-05T12:00:00.240+01:00TT3705B now also supports MOTOTRBO IP Site Connect!<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhe5Lvwokv3TphTtG3S4OP9CnmWhFmuGmqP7FcvYjXtzoPgYqFcxM2tIP2e_1XzZmhX7tA76dRctlDvbBxLg50PU2mQopWxojR6PxHVAyhJUuz8yGQLQg5P9MSQp09jCUGz2llXvC29R2jgCZ58LbdNltoI76UvB12H-4yitNAQzYp71DFLEG2xCI6bAPCZ/s960/wave.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="540" data-original-width="960" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhe5Lvwokv3TphTtG3S4OP9CnmWhFmuGmqP7FcvYjXtzoPgYqFcxM2tIP2e_1XzZmhX7tA76dRctlDvbBxLg50PU2mQopWxojR6PxHVAyhJUuz8yGQLQg5P9MSQp09jCUGz2llXvC29R2jgCZ58LbdNltoI76UvB12H-4yitNAQzYp71DFLEG2xCI6bAPCZ/s16000/wave.png" /></a></div><br /><div>TT3705B is the self-service gateway that you can purchase and configure yourself via the WAVE Admin Portal. This gateway now also supports MOTOTRBO IP Site Connect.</div><br />Previously, in order to use WAVE PTX with MOTOTRBO IP Site Connect, one would need to order HKVN4830A which required you to provide the hardware and needed to be remotely configured.<br /><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div><div>If you plan to use Private Calling between WAVE and LMR, then DDMS will be required to be installed somewhere on the network, as the gateway needs to know which slot the MOTOTRBO device is residing on, before it can initiate the Private Call.</div><div><br /></div><div>If you already have a TT3705_, I'm told that all you will need to do is deregister the device from the portal, and then add it back again. </div></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_xu/products/broadband-push-to-talk/wave-ptx.html" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="540" data-original-width="960" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhSMFJm4YM9DE5oQX7Z_pVHpLpAsH9sOtE7OnKNNDjZ9zNixJyIFyNtUq1fPIicZrNo2GXL60igE-1QxQvTV7kXTJqA6GtJ2jHBlq6v_MPYAhz1UqyJRUmZwqq6opeigFBCHNDlHlP7pBZHgBP0gsiVHst9jy-TL5hl1ynKIlLu2sxCiLHnUZrXR3kOXLl-/s16000/wrg.png" /></a></div><br />Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-54628437072316932112024-02-29T04:00:00.026+01:002024-02-29T04:00:00.135+01:00What would be the minimum set of hardware and software needed for ... ?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjfQF3gul_tR0mDEIZFNfRIGAmH3Y8chISs7QnM5v6DWBmfa_5OgAa3v4hIdkf4JMMp0JqWHgapjHm-KrMYedrpgZen_-zmeV3jkaqninOh-5Yny3oZo2YHbJ-ewUMeLzzOQ5CsE6N3qB9CPL99Ki5jbz7QoJLBF3qfXu1SG_N7Lg8zezxrmsqtRsv0X56Z/s1279/product-MOTOTRBO-renaissance-hotel-frank-lawlor_3-1280x1280.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="720" data-original-width="1279" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjfQF3gul_tR0mDEIZFNfRIGAmH3Y8chISs7QnM5v6DWBmfa_5OgAa3v4hIdkf4JMMp0JqWHgapjHm-KrMYedrpgZen_-zmeV3jkaqninOh-5Yny3oZo2YHbJ-ewUMeLzzOQ5CsE6N3qB9CPL99Ki5jbz7QoJLBF3qfXu1SG_N7Lg8zezxrmsqtRsv0X56Z/s16000/product-MOTOTRBO-renaissance-hotel-frank-lawlor_3-1280x1280.jpeg" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[Q]</b></span> For a security guard platform (offgrid), what would be the minimum set of hardware and software needed to build a (small?) but authenticated/secure (tetra?) radio platform?</span><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[A]</b></span> This is not an easy question to answer in a blog post. I would need to really understand your operation; how you work and what (if any) challenges you face or forsee before even asking questions about what you need.</span><br /><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Authenticated/secure</h4></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;">If authentication and security are a must, my suggestion would be to use TETRA together with one of the more secure algorithms (i.e. not TEA1). Dimetra Express offers both of these with the least amount of hardware and software.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></div><div>If authentication and security are important but so too is cost. My alternative suggestion would be MOTOTRBO. It offers AES-256 end to end encryption. Depending on the size of the network, Capacity Max will also do radio authentication but this solution is better suited for larger deployments. For smaller (non-Capacity Max) systems there is RAS - although not real authentication, it can prevent unauthorised access to the radio system.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">Offgrid</h4><div>Both technologies are able to operate off grid as long as there is sufficient power. If power is a problem for you, one option would be to go really, really small:</div><div><br />The smallest possible configuration for MOTOTRBO is just to use radios on simplex.</div><div>The same applies to TETRA but the range is much less due to transmitter power.</div><div><br /></div><div>To extend the range of a DMR system, you can use a repeater.</div><div>For TETRA, you can use a MTM5500 with DMO repeater enabled and configured but this does not offer much security and capacity but can run on very little power.<br />In both of these cases, the repeater should be mounted in a good location such as on top of a building or hill and in some cases with a mast etc.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">Pro and contra</h4><div>TETRA has a lot of security-related features but uses reduced RF power and typically is only allowed in the UHF frequency band - the latter means that the coverage offered from a single base station is less than what DMR could offer. TETRA base stations also have receiver diversity which does help improve coverage. Because of these security features, it is used and trusted by public safety organisations in many countries,</div><div>Also, there is a huge amount of interoperability between radios and networks of different vendors - way more than DMR. This means that you could use any TETRA radio on a Dimtera Express system.</div><div><br /></div><div>DMR also offers some security features but not as many as what TETRA (and P25) would offer. For example, DMR does not support mutual authentication or air interface encryption. </div><div>Compared to TETRA, the level of interoperability between different systems and radios is somewhat limited. This means that if you want to use a MOTOTRBO radio on another vendors system, many features will work but some will not depending on the vendor/system.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">In short</h4><div>Without a proper understanding of what you do and what you would like to achieve or solve, it's difficult for me to give you a sufficient answer. If you want to get more details or would like to discuss, please get in touch with my colleagues via <a href="https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_xu/how-to-buy.html" target="_blank">this link</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-53048118622152025132024-02-27T12:00:00.011+01:002024-02-27T12:00:00.142+01:00Wiki quickie<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEMStol_ySNOdaP26t9gXNUd8d9bXku9GjTvPrqdc0MDgde-3Dg56CLPZGk-cAaAaeCTLOA6FgPoKqCouTt3V-MUFysNyuCnYXv3iCKDJQkwaNFAXR_8AHrmRUuhtPGSo1_8AZjATaTLhoExri39hhS1y3lpvwJYpF0NoeX-g5sc3lLpzroCvya_ivXMOx/s2048/pxfuel.com.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1365" data-original-width="2048" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEMStol_ySNOdaP26t9gXNUd8d9bXku9GjTvPrqdc0MDgde-3Dg56CLPZGk-cAaAaeCTLOA6FgPoKqCouTt3V-MUFysNyuCnYXv3iCKDJQkwaNFAXR_8AHrmRUuhtPGSo1_8AZjATaTLhoExri39hhS1y3lpvwJYpF0NoeX-g5sc3lLpzroCvya_ivXMOx/s16000/pxfuel.com.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: left;">This year I hope to spend more time adding to and updating my <a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">Wiki</a>. This is something else I started a while back and, while not as popular as this Blog, the amount of visitors is slowly increasing.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Ths project started as a "sales guide" but soon I realised that information like this would be no good hidden in some document stored somewhere (be it physical or electronic).<br />I thought that the information would also not really fit into the <i>deomgraphic</i> of my blog. I also discovered that a lot of the information in the System Planner was not presented in a logical way.</div><div style="text-align: left;">All of these thoughts went around and around in my head until I reached this idea. I first pitched this as an intranet project at work but nobody was interested. It was at this point I decided to make the material public.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">The first permutation started its life as a few articles on a Fedora/Mediawiki server I had setup at home but connectivity and DNS soon proved to be a problem so I went and got a professional host.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">So here it is!</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">A complete list of Wiki articles can be found <a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Special:AllPages">here</a> - all related to MOTOTRBO. A list of recent changes can also be found <a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=500&days=30&enhanced=1&urlversion=2" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">If there is something you would like to see on the Wiki, please let me know via <a href="https://forms.gle/MjaowH2seqEbVrFb6" target="_blank">this form</a>. The Wiki is not really the best place for providing instructions or to answer specific questions - if you would like me to answer your question in the form of a blog post, use the <a href="https://forms.gle/UVyRFfXKWWH3MN7K8">contact form</a>.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">The top 5 performing pages on the Wiki, according to Google Analytics, are:</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_software_versions">https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_software_versions</a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_MOTOTRBO_Models">https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_MOTOTRBO_Models</a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/MOTOTRBO">https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/MOTOTRBO</a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_Capacity_Max_upgrade_packages">https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_Capacity_Max_upgrade_packages</a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Special:AllPages">https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Special:AllPages</a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">This excludes the main landing page.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Around 40% of traffic comes from search engines and another ~20% from my Blog. Since the Wiki is in English, the majority of traffic comes from the Anglophone countries with the USA leading the way by far. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">PS. Like my other sideline/private projects, this is something I do outside of work so please <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2024/01/keeping-us-out-of-trouble.html" target="_blank">read this post</a>.</div><div style="text-align: left;">PPS. If you work for Motorola Solutions and are connected via VPN or are on the WAN, some pages will not display properly becuase the Mywikis content delivery node is blocked.</div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-28013968929572596942024-02-20T12:00:00.000+01:002024-02-20T12:00:00.139+01:00OTAP en masse <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhR3c-4QywBlT0dXLN6ETW5iT3I9P7b10E4jGXSqfdC2jdFoQrawwCJhrKR9tDlkohhRgCRnx8fM83_rlIAcbHaepmhdZN5ENAbyD5qryOjAr5QyoFWhwmn1__FKA5NR4DLixEL77mWmMIqGJb4DB-xEamsLasiMQsAMJuFjlulH3vb8YXBGcwUAATzaecQ/s3906/multiple-mnis-dp-capmax.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3081" data-original-width="3906" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhR3c-4QywBlT0dXLN6ETW5iT3I9P7b10E4jGXSqfdC2jdFoQrawwCJhrKR9tDlkohhRgCRnx8fM83_rlIAcbHaepmhdZN5ENAbyD5qryOjAr5QyoFWhwmn1__FKA5NR4DLixEL77mWmMIqGJb4DB-xEamsLasiMQsAMJuFjlulH3vb8YXBGcwUAATzaecQ/s16000/multiple-mnis-dp-capmax.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div>[Q] Have you come across anyone that has managed to get multiple device managers to work on one laptop for multiple radios to be programmed via RM? I’m having to use four or five laptops in a CapMax environment pointed at 1 laptop that has the server. Very time consuming. Can’t use wifi because even with the latest firmware update, the DP4600/01 didn’t seem to get the free Wi-Fi option.<br /><br />[A] I’ve not seen a better way than this being done by anyone yet. The way I would reduce the number of computers needed, is to use Virtualisation. I wrote a guide on how to virtualise MOTOTRBO applications last year, which might help you.<br /><br />At the time of writing this, I have not tested this so some things may need some tweaking if you are going to follow what I've written below.<br /><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>The setup in this case, would be a computer running some sort of Hypervisor. Each guest would need to run Windows 8.1 or later. You would need to set up the virtual switch so that each guest machine would be able to access the ethernet port on the host machine.<br /><br />If this is a temporary requirement, and you will be using a working computer (i.e. you don’t want to wipe the disk and want to use it as-is afterwards), then you could use Microsoft Hyper-V to create virtual machines on top of Windows then delete these once the mass OTAP exercise is over.<br /><br />On each guest virtual machine, you would install Device Programmer and MNIS. Each Device Programmer would point back to the Radio Management Server and would - in your case - connect into the Trunking Controller on the active CMSS.<br /><br />If this was not a Capacity Max system, the setup would almost be the same, except that one of the virtual machines will also need to have DDMS on it and the Device Programmer on each virtual machine would need to point back to it. This is true for both Capacity Plus and IP Site Connect systems.<br /><br />For mass OTAP to work in an IP Site Connect system, there needs to be a sufficient number of channels to pass data. Also, the target radios need to be spread across all of these channels. These channels will also need to be local (i.e. although the repeaters are part of an IPSC system, no voice or data traffic is passed to the other repeaters, or more specifically, IP Site Connect is set to None.<br /><br />In all cases, each MNIS will need to have a unique Radio ID.<br /><br />In a Capacity Max system, the Radio ID is set in Radio View before exporting the GWCFGX file. Also, remember that each of these MNIS instances will need to be added to the Subscriber Access Control table (otherwise registration will be denied for them). Since there could be multiple MNISes connecting to the system at the same time using the same service, you will need to have one MNIS Data Gateway Licence per MNIS instance to allow this.<br /><br />For non-Capacity Max systems, the Radio ID is set in the MNIS Configuration Utility itself. Each repeater in the system will also need a NAI Data licence, if they will be used for OTAP.<br /><br /> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXLjMYCAuEVR7NSwlpsLmKH47QWoX3ZIDV4EYIE7PZPLUAoZB-_-weyEehRtDImZu8JUhXJEOfXwSlUFxVFUExqKMWGVK8e5AbbDmOTjfi2Bcpjv6XdKqgdqivSQSqoDLLuFjU8m0asBXdOzbxN9xg80jIHXsautkkTGs4i6j0vQtnd59ZhkqDojSa-uFc/s3906/multiple-mnis-dp-capplus.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3906" data-original-width="3906" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXLjMYCAuEVR7NSwlpsLmKH47QWoX3ZIDV4EYIE7PZPLUAoZB-_-weyEehRtDImZu8JUhXJEOfXwSlUFxVFUExqKMWGVK8e5AbbDmOTjfi2Bcpjv6XdKqgdqivSQSqoDLLuFjU8m0asBXdOzbxN9xg80jIHXsautkkTGs4i6j0vQtnd59ZhkqDojSa-uFc/s16000/multiple-mnis-dp-capplus.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br /><br />In the second diagram, showing a Capacity Plus system, note that one of the virtual machines has DDMS installed on it. In this case, you would probably need to use a static IP address for this guest as the Device Programmers on the other two guest machines need to know where to get presence information. The Device Programmer on the same machine would use 127.0.0.1 whereas the other two virtual machines will need to use whatever IP address you gave to that VM.<br /><br />Each Device Programmer should have a unique ID.<br /><br />The number of concurrent jobs should also be increased in the Job Processor - if the computer on which it's running (usually the Radio Management server) has sufficient cores and threads to support this.<br /><br />In the above diagrams, I have shown three virtual machines. Of course, the number of virtual machines you use is almost limitless. I guess there is a limitation to the number of Device Programmers and MNISes you can have connected to a system but a PC with four or five virtual machines won't put a load on anything.<br /><br />Using a setup like what is shown in the diagrams, you could OTAP up to three radios at the same time. If each OTAP job takes one minute, with this you could update 180 radios per hour.<br /><br />Quite often I have "treppenhaus gedanken" whenever posting stuff like this. This means that I forget to mention something and (when I'm busy with other stuff) I forget to add it in later. So, if you think I've missed something, or there is something that's still not clear to you, please let me know in the comments.<br /> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><br /><br />Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-79016193213541446712024-02-13T12:00:00.001+01:002024-02-13T12:00:00.139+01:00Linking analogue repeaters<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7wyad7t8H5bfiXE7-x-ZYfZQ1285ce0NgmgQbzx2y5-GJCnQKwnZ12mklv31tE6gwepwrrfBhklVT39-WWBc1CXolbEhvOSe-Sv44Dm4P2OYmetsrQW8K_cY8SbiWkepfwWH4AMs9Ms3eLF_-sgZBMVPSN30GkSl_KAMZH0UA3niUC3CidFMhwoNTWR5X/s7863/Drawing20.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4550" data-original-width="7863" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7wyad7t8H5bfiXE7-x-ZYfZQ1285ce0NgmgQbzx2y5-GJCnQKwnZ12mklv31tE6gwepwrrfBhklVT39-WWBc1CXolbEhvOSe-Sv44Dm4P2OYmetsrQW8K_cY8SbiWkepfwWH4AMs9Ms3eLF_-sgZBMVPSN30GkSl_KAMZH0UA3niUC3CidFMhwoNTWR5X/s16000/Drawing20.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[Q]</b></span> I have a question how to connect SLR8000 with Motorola CM360 to create a radio link that is to say connect SLR8000 in analogue with motorola CM360 analogue. Tell me the pins of the SLR8000 relay accessory.</div><div><br /></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[A]</b></span> The <a href="https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_xu/products/two-way-radios-licensed/analog-business-radios/discontinued/cm360.html#tabproductinfo">CM360</a> was discontinued some years ago. I might be wrong but as far as I can remember, this radio was not approved for fixed installations. Technically it will probably work okay but you might run into problems with the <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2017/11/list-of-telecommunications-regulators.html" target="_blank">local regulator</a>, if they decide to check.</div><div><br /></div><div>I don't have the software for the CM360 anymore. I doubt it will run on Windows 11 and my memory of this product is not that good anymore.</div><div><br /></div><div>You can use a "link radio" to extend the coverage of an alogue repeater to another repeater or onto a simplex channel as shown below. The link radio basically retransmits whatever goes out over the repeater and anything received on the link channel gets transmitted on the repeater.</div><div><br /></div><div>The first thing you would need to take care of, is to ensure that the link frequency and repeater frequencies do not interfere with each other. Ideally the link channel should be in a different frequency band (or if not possible, a good few megahertz away).</div><div>The antennas would need to be positioned so as to minimise the risk of desense.</div><div><br /></div><div>The way this works is:</div><div><br /></div><div>Whenever someone is transmitting via the repeater, it will produce received audio and carrier detect on the accessory connector. Received audio is basically what the repeater receives over the air. Carrier detect is a logic level where high means the repeater is receiving something. The carrier detect output and received audio are both sent to the link radio.</div><div><br /></div><div>So in the above diagram, Radio A can talk to Radio B via the link radios connected to both repeaters. The repeaters are linked via the "link radio" which can also serve Radio C.</div><div><br /></div><div>Carrier detect from the repeater can usually be fed directly into the PTT input of the link radio. Sometimes you might need to configure the repeater to produce a logic low whenever carrier is present - this can be done in the CPS (Accessories set).</div><div><br /></div><div>The link radio also produces received audio and carrier detect. This would be passed to the repeater. As with the link radio, carrier detect from the radio can go straight into the PTT input of the repeater.</div><div><br /></div><div>Carrier detect is called CSQ Detect in the CPS. I think it has the same name in the CM360 CPS but I haven't used that software for over fifteen years now. If you are using CTCSS, I would suggest to rather use PL Detect (or whatever it's called in the CM360 CPS).</div><div><br /></div><div>The GPIOs on both the repeater and radio need to be configured to provide/accept CSQ Detect and PTT. This is done in the CPS. You need to pay special attention to the logic levels so that when CSQ Detect goes high, PTT is triggered.</div><div><br /></div><div>The tricky part is the audio. The CM360 probably outputs around 300mV RMS on the receive audio output. The SLR8000 expects around 80mV.Also, the impedance of the receive audio output on the CM360 is probably around 2kΩ. This means that on the audio line between the CM360 and SLR8000, you will need to employ some impedance matching and attenuation.</div><div><br /></div><div>By default, the receive audio output on the CM360 has a 300Hz-3kHz band pass and 6dB/8ve deemphasis applied to it. Both of these need to be disabled in the CM360. This is done in the CPS. If I remember right, the fields were called Disable De/Pre-emphasis and RX Flat Audio.</div><div><br /></div><div>The same is true going the other way, the level and impedance of RX Audio on the SLR8000 is 300mV RMS and1kΩ (nominal) and microphone audio input on the CM360 is also probably 80mV at 600Ω. The SLR8000 will also output filtered audio by default so this too will need to be disabled.</div><div><br /></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUAqDLX8iOF0JY14at-LhNQIuuKxRezXz6Vx5D6Qwkgp3TXn7vD3ApkCqltj7MeQtm9XsfFnyEhBSwhmMRJvooJ9gaf16j4Cw5luKrOvhB0wFHBi-XZvl5PbAQP0A5Y9sDB9eEAQZRfkp0z_xsP0DcWecd7TAJisFU7NBLXMhu-L1ofda99jTaF2Bu0qAb/s1243/andros-link.png" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="311" data-original-width="1243" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUAqDLX8iOF0JY14at-LhNQIuuKxRezXz6Vx5D6Qwkgp3TXn7vD3ApkCqltj7MeQtm9XsfFnyEhBSwhmMRJvooJ9gaf16j4Cw5luKrOvhB0wFHBi-XZvl5PbAQP0A5Y9sDB9eEAQZRfkp0z_xsP0DcWecd7TAJisFU7NBLXMhu-L1ofda99jTaF2Bu0qAb/s16000/andros-link.png" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">SLR8000 codeplug settings.</td></tr></tbody></table><br /><div>The above shows suggested settings for the SLR8000. Note that I am using debounce on GPIO1 (2). This presents accidental triggering of the repeater PTT. When setting Audio Type to Flat Unsquelched, the RX Audio output will produce white (brown) noise whenever there is no signal present - this is normal, Also, Analogue Accessory Emphasis gets set to None, which is what you would need.</div><div><br /></div><div>The interconnecting cable would look something like this.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzMX5UnttXrsqCfYpzFRBF1qFmKtscjt6oJIhRr7dA9xrJH2glEBnbSR8kd-leE4olkoBXe0dW367PgISAGpNg6nEWbHbM3VNYp2Fpf81SD6DDhWqebVr4ctmwEItIlMi2l0qqLJRYYvfK11SF9MqUYiMBKtcN7FqTTJ3BLAN_Fdg3Ub2hRo4KhfkJRB2m/s6500/link-cable.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4588" data-original-width="6500" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzMX5UnttXrsqCfYpzFRBF1qFmKtscjt6oJIhRr7dA9xrJH2glEBnbSR8kd-leE4olkoBXe0dW367PgISAGpNg6nEWbHbM3VNYp2Fpf81SD6DDhWqebVr4ctmwEItIlMi2l0qqLJRYYvfK11SF9MqUYiMBKtcN7FqTTJ3BLAN_Fdg3Ub2hRo4KhfkJRB2m/s16000/link-cable.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div>In addition to the above, the ground on both the radio and repeater must connected to one another. This is the ground on the accessory connector, not the chassis ground.</div><div>Although not shown in the diagram, all audio cables must be screened (coax). The potentiometers and resistors should also be mounted in a shielded box. I would go as far as mounting them all on a PCB - possibly with a 16-pin DIP socket which would allow the board to sit on the back o the mobile radio accessory connector.</div><div> </div><div>You can find a listing of SLR8000 pinouts <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2023/12/what-do-all-connections-on-slr8000.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div><br />I don't have any CM360 documentation but I'm sure you'll find something on the <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=cm360+cm160+cm140+installation+manual&rlz=1C1GCCU_en-GB&oq=cm360+cm160+cm140+installation+manual&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKAB0gEJMTI1ODJqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">internet</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div>The SLR8000 uses an industry standard Dsub 25 connector. For the CM360 you'll need to buy a HLN9457A and use a matching crimp tool.</div><div><br /></div><div>If this were a digital system, there is a more elegant way to link repeaters that only only passes voice but also control messaging and data - see <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2018/07/no-los-no-problem.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div>In principle you could use any repeater and almost any mobile for this. </div><div><br /></div><div>If I remember anything else, I will add it in the comments.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><i>Some useless trivia: I had some small involvement in the workstyle photography for the CM series brochures. The radio needed to be installed into vehicles but we couldn't do any drilling or use any screws since the cars were on loan. The solution: lots of Prestik (a.k.a. Blue Tack, Pattafix; Sticky Putty). For the taxi photoshoot, I removed the control head and stuck it over the hidey hole on the dashboard.</i></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-63287578339743100812024-02-06T12:00:00.010+01:002024-02-06T12:00:00.140+01:00OTAP doesn't require a repeater as long as you use a Control Station.<p><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3Q3UPadF8vKYrmijZuI8eA5jQpixVCafl0MU6LskKXqlDcZRRxrwGnEVHqj60DBq1oYgZ9p6PE4jvHbwzRENS_uOM_45d9ApSttBpDZJGp6-grzITj5SAia_Gv3cqOiBMdJGPtNuNu03pzhtvLhTXqzFy10ro1N76MfN7kualEWtYYESB5ODGYx6idc6b/s1280/andros_repeater_slr_8000_front_amy_peterson_8378-1280x1280.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="301" data-original-width="1280" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3Q3UPadF8vKYrmijZuI8eA5jQpixVCafl0MU6LskKXqlDcZRRxrwGnEVHqj60DBq1oYgZ9p6PE4jvHbwzRENS_uOM_45d9ApSttBpDZJGp6-grzITj5SAia_Gv3cqOiBMdJGPtNuNu03pzhtvLhTXqzFy10ro1N76MfN7kualEWtYYESB5ODGYx6idc6b/s16000/andros_repeater_slr_8000_front_amy_peterson_8378-1280x1280.jpg" /></a></span></div><p></p><p><span style="font-size: large; text-align: justify;"><b>[Q]</b></span><span style="text-align: justify;"> I would like to schedule radios with Radio Management via OTAP. I use the method to one PC (in other words I installed the server; the RM customer; the programming device and the Job Processor on the same PC). I have a control station directly connected to the PC.</span></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">My question: is it possible to program the radios without going through the repeater? (In other words, the OTAP data goes directly from the control station to the radio to program).</div><div style="text-align: justify;">And if it is not possible I suppose then that the path of OTAP data is as follows: PC - Control Station - repeater - RADIO to program. In this case is the Nai Data license to be install for the repeater ?</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">[A]</span></b> You can OTAP radios via a control station without a repeater by simply using a simplex channel. The limitation here is RF range since the control station will presumably have a lower gain antenna and will be located somewhere that does not have as much coverage as a repeater would. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Remember that in order for OTAP to work, there needs to be signal both ways (i.e. the control station must be able to hear the target radios) since a lot of ack messages are used to ensure the write job goes through without error.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">You can also do OTAP via a control station and repeater.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">The NAI Data Licence is only needed if you intend using the repeater(s) as the source/destination for data (i.e. no control station and using MNIS).</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">All of this is covered in the <a href="https://bit.ly/3sEAAyU" target="_blank">MOTOTRBO Radio Management Guide for Technical Staff</a> I published a few weeks ago.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">What is a Control Station? Click <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2019/01/what-is-control-station.html">here</a> to find out and <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2016/04/yqa-setting-up-control-station.html">how to set up</a> one.</div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-32600092071890181232024-01-30T14:00:00.000+01:002024-01-30T14:00:00.128+01:00What does Illegal Carrier do?<div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLmmMwLRLB9pnvvn0IOKaIfnEfWfJe87MwIH8rDxos6r-kyPMmcEt_UppO01vzx9yKbE0XOGdTnuszN2wnTF-qSaeno41LVLZ14yI7xETcT8uma61b_QE2ht7BSi98UDVvWi2nILW1yKPEDydkV3VGqm_LUyQoLbQFxYVAU72zAHz1KEbAZyOPlm6mTFFb/s946/Screenshot%202023-11-27%20185812.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="98" data-original-width="946" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLmmMwLRLB9pnvvn0IOKaIfnEfWfJe87MwIH8rDxos6r-kyPMmcEt_UppO01vzx9yKbE0XOGdTnuszN2wnTF-qSaeno41LVLZ14yI7xETcT8uma61b_QE2ht7BSi98UDVvWi2nILW1yKPEDydkV3VGqm_LUyQoLbQFxYVAU72zAHz1KEbAZyOPlm6mTFFb/s16000/Screenshot%202023-11-27%20185812.png" /></a></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 700;"><br /></span></div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><b style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: large;">[Q]</span></b> In CPS I have read a codeplug from our SLR 5700 (SLR5500) and under general settings it has an option for "Illegal carrier feature enable". I understand that in P25 systems at least when an Illegal carrier is detected the repeater will fallback to a back up frequency to avoid jamming, does this work the same in Mototrbo? because maybe I'm missing something but after I enable it, there is no where to input a fallback frequency.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">[A]</span></b> I know almost nothing about P25/Astro. There is nothing like that in DMR.</div><div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Illegal Carrier in the SLR repeaters is only there for system monitoring purposes. When enabled, if an interfering signal is detected for longer than the <i>Illegal Carrier Timer</i> with a signal strength of more than the <i>Illegal Carrier Threshold</i>, the repeater will and generate an alarm. The severity of the alarm can be configured to be either Major; Minor or Informational.</div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi815fif38i1HVrjYMosSQueg-Of4LO_Jyax8f0Ze-wSoFdsWHQV_uZ8kT67T_GeDXK96Zh05Lr2hivxC9wA0oOTQQmJHCeZhTTB5vVJ8PEb4KsNqyqF61M13BoTPMNG67LQULrqMUPEJnlICfqidASkfeUH7b5cc2696ZNwEvtHlkgcysDZ8-55WPULzZP/s838/Screenshot%202023-11-27%20191728.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="42" data-original-width="838" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi815fif38i1HVrjYMosSQueg-Of4LO_Jyax8f0Ze-wSoFdsWHQV_uZ8kT67T_GeDXK96Zh05Lr2hivxC9wA0oOTQQmJHCeZhTTB5vVJ8PEb4KsNqyqF61M13BoTPMNG67LQULrqMUPEJnlICfqidASkfeUH7b5cc2696ZNwEvtHlkgcysDZ8-55WPULzZP/s16000/Screenshot%202023-11-27%20191728.png" /></a></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">The repeater regards a DMR transmission with an incorrect Colour Code or any other non-DMR signal as an illegal carrier. </div></div><div style="text-align: justify;">The repeater behavior depends what <i>Illegal Carrier Alarm</i> is set to: if set to Informational, the repeater <u>may</u> continue to operate normally; if set to Major, the repeater will be taken out of action until it gets reset.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">When I say "may continue to operate" it means that the repeater will transmit signals but reception could be impacted, depending on how strong the interference is and for how long it is present.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">If the repeater is part of a Capacity Plus or Capacity Max system and Illegal Carrier Alarm is set to anything other than Informational, it will remove itself from contention for being a Rest Channel or Control Channel host whenever there is interference. If an illegal carrier is detected by a control channel host, this function will be transferred to the next available control channel capable repeater.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Another setting that may be of interest is <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-other-rssi-threshold.html" target="_blank">RSSI Threshold</a> (in the personality set).</div>
Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-38983274439691266922024-01-23T12:00:00.002+01:002024-01-23T12:00:00.129+01:00Where can I buy MOTOTRBO Radio Management for my organisation?<p><b style="text-align: justify;"></b></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b style="text-align: justify;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmYEgBihdqn1uJbZtF7n3MPtZSiOJNmFHxVPDvSytqQqsOyhFsxyOw6OqsfKX-0YpAe7GN_DYI5LT2JW30Tgy8ZCZ0CPq-0J-Mq7qBMhZ2bqwVsBQaDkXMJTpgBz0m_Ah0Ns4uwFzgfUcJHdrM0pFKHbVjV0CkmaK-yeATv-Bxser8PxXXaucxrqCQWNvF/s441/dvd.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="441" data-original-width="441" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmYEgBihdqn1uJbZtF7n3MPtZSiOJNmFHxVPDvSytqQqsOyhFsxyOw6OqsfKX-0YpAe7GN_DYI5LT2JW30Tgy8ZCZ0CPq-0J-Mq7qBMhZ2bqwVsBQaDkXMJTpgBz0m_Ah0Ns4uwFzgfUcJHdrM0pFKHbVjV0CkmaK-yeATv-Bxser8PxXXaucxrqCQWNvF/s16000/dvd.png" /></a></b></div><b style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: large;">[Q] </span></b> My organization need Radio management software for over the Air programing. I want to confirm that <div style="text-align: justify;">1. Motorola is still providing this software or not.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">2. Provided with cps or can be without cps as we are already using cps 2.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">3. Provided as single RM server software or with other supporting supporting for network interface etc. </div><div style="text-align: justify;">4. Online support is available after purchase for installation and troubleshooting? </div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>[A]</b></span> I can confirm that:</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><ol><li>MOTOTRBO Radio Management is still being sold; supported and regularly updated.</li><li>In EMEA at least, the DVD containing Radio Management includes CPS. However, CPS is not needed to use Radio Management.*</li><li>Radio Management is a complete application. All you will need in addition to this software, is a host PC running Windows desktop or server. Depending on your system setup, you might also need <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2019/08/what-does-mnis-do.html">MNIS</a> and/or <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2019/07/what-does-ddms.html">DDMS</a>. Both of these can be provided on request.</li><li>This can be provided. You just need to ask the Motorola Solutions Reseller you normally deal with. Or, if your employer has a purchasing contract with Motorola Solutions, speak to your Account Manager.</li></ol></div><div style="text-align: justify;">*There are some old videos doing their rounds on the internet that demonstrates Radio Management 1.x which used CPS16.0 and before as the client. This version/method is no longer supported and <b>Radio Management 2.x</b> has its own client application.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Radio Management can be provided in two formats: On a DVD or as a download. The DVD is there for customers who want to have a physical item for auditing purposes. You can ask (nicely) your Motorola Solutions Reseller to give you a copy of this software.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-88175827263103439682024-01-16T12:00:00.004+01:002024-01-16T12:00:00.128+01:00It's not possible to add radios to RM without knowing the serial number.<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCgIwLj-cmiyTj3GYpqfpCcbKwNoaR3JzPMoOrtTXGeQqomDKAMMUv8-GwdCPGqM7_frytrAWivK2OImqyR7lRnw-RmUglzp2mD0kN8DJ9QFS4QNAr8GMB3cm1jUBYoniSeHhQ4lBRWDsYvv9CdEB4bLW6Th_F-dIAU6LzgSsHEQZ9zEaKU0YaghQsHNsu/s2844/brazil-image-landscape-visual-look-sky-1443939-pxhere.com.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="2844" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCgIwLj-cmiyTj3GYpqfpCcbKwNoaR3JzPMoOrtTXGeQqomDKAMMUv8-GwdCPGqM7_frytrAWivK2OImqyR7lRnw-RmUglzp2mD0kN8DJ9QFS4QNAr8GMB3cm1jUBYoniSeHhQ4lBRWDsYvv9CdEB4bLW6Th_F-dIAU6LzgSsHEQZ9zEaKU0YaghQsHNsu/s16000/brazil-image-landscape-visual-look-sky-1443939-pxhere.com.jpg" /></a></div><br /><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><b style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;">[Q]</span></b><span style="text-align: left;"> Our dams early warning system are connected using IP Site Connect MOTOTRBO radios and repeaters. We have over 600 DGM radios connected by 20 repeaters, covering a very wide area.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;">I've been working with Motorola guys [...] in order to implement NAI and MNIS to perform radios configuration via OTAP.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">The issue is, we haven't cataloged our radios Serial Number so far, and doing that manually (over USB connection) would be a huge effort in terms of time spent.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">I have watched most of your content on Youtube and I wonder if is there a way to solve this (whether getting the SN remotely via RM/SmartPTT/other application or being able to connect to a radio even without its SN).</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">What i tried to do was adding a generic SN (e.g. 511NTX0000 for DGM5000e series) and providing the correct the Radio ID. Although there was indeed data traffic between RM and the radio, I got the error "#10002 - Task SN doesn't match device SN" and couldn't go further on it.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Is there anything I can do?</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">[A]</span> </b>It is only possible to add and write a radio or repeater to MOTOTRBO Radio Management if the MVO data matches what is in the radio. In this case, the radio can only be written using Wi-Fi or programming cable.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">In order for the radio to be programmed using OTAP, not only the OTAP key needs to be present and match that in MOTOTRBO Radio Management but also the above MVO and configuration data must match.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">It is a bad idea to write unknown radios using OTAP! With the very low data rate; contention and overhead, it will take very long to write an entire codeplug over the air. The likelihood that write jobs will fail is very high in this case.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">My suggestion would be to go to each site; configure the radio for OTAP using CPS and save the written codeplug. Then once a number of (or all) radios have been done, import these codeplungs into Radio Management. Once imported, any changes must be made from there.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Ideally, the radios should be added to MOTOTRBO Radio Management as seen in my <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLajLE2N1ugvDiD1ATar2c2uyn4OmDeExh&si=uE4OxHveQR1gjb6r" target="_blank">videos</a> and <a href="https://bit.ly/3sEAAyU">guide</a>.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-40662195683023401922024-01-09T12:00:00.018+01:002024-01-09T12:00:00.147+01:00Mixed systems (or, how a simple question turns into a long answer)<div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAnh3biWw3mM2lTjdX-pduL8Su8HoU1QLg1r_zGNMFY6d8B4Z8uGSQJcDarFHRgx7OMXREQSy3f3UtNW6QB23_kplPmtqVxmH0gJ078N-ZX9JT1IWzwrXrq1wChUtDY9HAANoxJRzTKe-yPv0idsohisqY3ZHwGiusecZlkSc4wu5jVYZlJW6QStw0dXOS/s2811/dish-meal-food-produce-colorful-dessert-1020869-pxhere.com.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1979" data-original-width="2811" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAnh3biWw3mM2lTjdX-pduL8Su8HoU1QLg1r_zGNMFY6d8B4Z8uGSQJcDarFHRgx7OMXREQSy3f3UtNW6QB23_kplPmtqVxmH0gJ078N-ZX9JT1IWzwrXrq1wChUtDY9HAANoxJRzTKe-yPv0idsohisqY3ZHwGiusecZlkSc4wu5jVYZlJW6QStw0dXOS/s16000/dish-meal-food-produce-colorful-dessert-1020869-pxhere.com.jpg" /></a></div><br /><b><br /></b></div><b><span style="font-size: large;">[Q]</span></b> Might you be aware of a list of proprietary MOTOTRBO features that will not function on a “mixed” system? In other words, what features would be lost if non-Motorola equipment was introduced into a DMR system? For example, I recall the use of “compressed UDP header” requires an all-Motorola environment.<div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: large;">[A]</span></b> I'm not aware of any list like this, but this question could be posed to any DMR equipment vendor and their answer will be more or less the same as mine. Also, the answer is not quite clear cut - in reality, some features will work; some features might work and some features won't work, depending on the conditions.</div><div><br /></div><div>The DMR Association oversees <a href="https://bit.ly/46DziT3" target="_blank">interoperability testing between vendors</a>. The IOP test result and certificate provides an assurance to buyers, that the listed equipment will be able to work with each other but there are some caveats:</div><div><ul style="text-align: left;"><li>For DMR Tier 2, only the following features/functions are tested and only 1-4 are mandatory. This means that a vendor can elect not to test 5-8 and still achieve interoperability.</li></ul><ol style="text-align: left;"><ol><li>Talkgroup Call</li><li>Individual Call (OACSU and PATCS)</li><li>All Call</li><li>Radio Check</li><li>Call Alert</li><li>Radio Disable/Enable</li><li>Emergency Alarm</li><li>Emergency Call</li></ol></ol><ul style="text-align: left;"><li>The above tests are generally performed between a radio from vendor X and repeater from vendor Y and not between radios. Although recently the tests for DMR Tier 2 have included both repeaters and radios from both vendors.</li><li>For DMR Tier 3, the situation is similar with 5-8 being optional tests:</li></ul><ol style="text-align: left;"><ol><li>Registration (Denied/Granted) and Deregistration</li><li>Hunting and site change</li><li>Single site talkgroup call (message and transmission trunking as well as call denied and granted)</li><li>Single site individual text message.</li><li>Single site individual call with OACSU and FOACSU (as well as call denied and granted)</li><li>Multisite talkgroup call (message and transmission trunking as well as call denied and granted)</li><li>Multisite individual call with OACSU and FOACSU (as well as call denied and granted)</li><li>Multisite individual text message.</li></ol></ol></div><div>I know that the test procedure has been updated but I haven't seen any data to confirm whether more tests have been added. I'm sure someone will correct me! (Please)</div><div><br /></div><div>Remember that interoperability only covers the RF air interface. This means that a repeater from vendor X cannot be used in a system from vendor Y. It also does not necessarily mean that a radio from W will work with a radio from Z but if radios from W and Z were separately tested on system X, one can infer that they will support the features/functions listed in 1-4 above.</div><div><br /></div><div>In some cases, the trouble with ETSI TS 102 361, is that some things are not very well defined in my opinion, and so it's up to each vendor to decide how to implement the described feature. In this case, although it may be present in vendor X's radio, that feature will not work with other vendor's radios.</div><div><br /></div><div>MOTOTRBO Capacity Plus is based on DMR but is a proprietary implementation, so other vendor's radios will not be able to work on this. Other vendors have systems like Capacity Plus and the same would be true for them.</div><div><br /></div><div>MOTOTRBO Capacity Max will support radios from other vendors, provided that radio has demonstrated DMR Tier 3 interoperability.</div><div><br /></div><div>To make things easy to understand, I would categorise features and functionality as <i>will work</i>; <i>might work</i> and <i>won't work</i>. Blogger.com does not really handle tables very well so instead, I've created this list using <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-5g7dk5Q5yi7aAZcoJIkwYWM33kLnLzeapxz0zmRLhQ/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">Google Sheets</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-5g7dk5Q5yi7aAZcoJIkwYWM33kLnLzeapxz0zmRLhQ/edit?usp=sharing" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" target="_blank"><img border="0" data-original-height="658" data-original-width="1011" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxA-rj1IU6yK0eozK78__hM2JRJ0_8spS58YGaFcw3yKNfUw2n73ZIT9CYMBp2bfbNzLFdWmFko_7Vz2MG108MNHaAHEcyJP3Pw2OIWqsXfCJZi8gEy_4fpSkhr6sVeU_WosjXdHEdEm9za3PLUiz5vISL4HDS9Mde9FuGbXC3hJzDWCJc9lfW2DarX4yr/s16000/Screenshot%202023-12-04%20123946.png" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Click this image to open the list.</td></tr></tbody></table><br /><div><div>While I've done my best to make this list as accurate as possible, I cannot guarantee that it is exhaustive or free from errors. If you need to <u>officially</u> confirm whether a specific feature will work in a specific configuration, please contact the manufacturer or their representative. If you think there is an error, please let me know. </div></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><i>A reminder once more that this is a personal website. All posts on this blog are my own and do not necessarily represent the positions, strategies, or opinions of my employer, Motorola Solutions.</i></div></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-75873346961118001282024-01-02T12:00:00.071+01:002024-01-02T12:00:00.147+01:00Keeping us out of trouble.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjim3ZCwOCKtlLuvVdO-Ytm0mCp_fxGwgkea8lNjAevrgpgcPnh68ZbLAuiAMndDMQS4u_EYAnPxKHoS_irn3z7Bjo_8UCXKq9s0XnR1NkY2bgfwFwg9VoNanFhXDh2wocYT-lxuDVw7BuAizpI97o73Ton_SSBEy8U5nEE8RTWhx3Y93A6eKclgNAAGm6a/s1440/278384143_10226787430047246_132654812090249978_n.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1080" data-original-width="1440" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjim3ZCwOCKtlLuvVdO-Ytm0mCp_fxGwgkea8lNjAevrgpgcPnh68ZbLAuiAMndDMQS4u_EYAnPxKHoS_irn3z7Bjo_8UCXKq9s0XnR1NkY2bgfwFwg9VoNanFhXDh2wocYT-lxuDVw7BuAizpI97o73Ton_SSBEy8U5nEE8RTWhx3Y93A6eKclgNAAGm6a/s16000/278384143_10226787430047246_132654812090249978_n.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: justify;">This blog; my Wiki and YouTube channel are my private projects and I create content in my free time for the benefit of anyone interested. The content is my own and does not necessarily represent the positions, strategies, or opinions of my employer, Motorola Solutions.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div><div style="text-align: justify;">Although I do my best to check facts and pay attention to my writing, all that you read/see on these platforms is not entirely without error and is therefore not <i>official</i> and offered without warranty.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">If you intend using my suggestions in your system design, make sure to consult the official Motorola Solutions documentation; get informed advice and apply common sense before going ahead.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Remember that the ultimate design responsibility lies with you.</div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Some readers have contacted me at work, asking for assistance to solve technical problems. In nearly all cases I have to turn them away because they are not from <a href="https://sites.google.com/view/cwh050/home" target="_blank">my region</a> and I'm not in the technical support team. If you are looking for some advice from me, you can ask a question in the comments or use the <a href="https://forms.gle/UVyRFfXKWWH3MN7K8" target="_blank">contact form</a>. Otherwise, read <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/p/support.html" target="_blank">this page</a> to find out who you can turn to for assistance.<br /></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-18951050528651674222023-12-24T21:00:00.001+01:002023-12-24T21:00:00.135+01:00Merry Christmas<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFTZZ7hNyTqFgrxEAIrHna1LNEIpcRw3vcF-ixm29Vi4nz5OHQ0DxNi1Gb22ECwrUcXYeyG_sy45qMKVm4EXVfnrGHUlvSxJnBGiJ5jGuy57V6gbqs3BLww1rItkS6AK_fCsvKMSz0mHVF7alUpgWt1CNYwUecB75h41eaA2UgKTy5RYM_lCEHed7zk_Kv/s5616/star-glow-germany-christmas-red-leaf-1459443-pxhere.com.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3744" data-original-width="5616" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFTZZ7hNyTqFgrxEAIrHna1LNEIpcRw3vcF-ixm29Vi4nz5OHQ0DxNi1Gb22ECwrUcXYeyG_sy45qMKVm4EXVfnrGHUlvSxJnBGiJ5jGuy57V6gbqs3BLww1rItkS6AK_fCsvKMSz0mHVF7alUpgWt1CNYwUecB75h41eaA2UgKTy5RYM_lCEHed7zk_Kv/s16000/star-glow-germany-christmas-red-leaf-1459443-pxhere.com.jpg" /></a></div><br /><p></p>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-78238516605779743962023-12-19T14:00:00.000+01:002023-12-19T14:00:00.135+01:00Installing MOTOTRBO Radio Management and other applications on virtual machines 📖<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgpEtVI6nYOt-Esrz7pS-06dNaMb7D2E2W1xNcrDHJZvjwjpwLLOuq-yM7CBcTadg5dm4u5N8EfWezh0P2xCYNlBfPPUgd0A6bRtZtJAcAmaKqg3Q8JLYipmcBNT1U-8gLtM_11-scL9AD9ToAYbRo_COq6wfC_TmoeJRO2H4GXI6VQmTe_AoWLQH0LzLwD/s7360/desk-writing-work-hand-man-working-596254-pxhere.com.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4912" data-original-width="7360" height="214" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgpEtVI6nYOt-Esrz7pS-06dNaMb7D2E2W1xNcrDHJZvjwjpwLLOuq-yM7CBcTadg5dm4u5N8EfWezh0P2xCYNlBfPPUgd0A6bRtZtJAcAmaKqg3Q8JLYipmcBNT1U-8gLtM_11-scL9AD9ToAYbRo_COq6wfC_TmoeJRO2H4GXI6VQmTe_AoWLQH0LzLwD/s320/desk-writing-work-hand-man-working-596254-pxhere.com.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>You can run MOTOTRBO Radio Management and its associated applications/services on a virtual machine. In <a href="https://bit.ly/3PzsHnm" target="_blank">this document</a>, I discuss how to set things up and what to look out for.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3PzsHnm" target="_blank">The document</a> is a work in progress so check back every so often to see if there are any updates. If you would like to contribute, please let me know in the comments below.</p>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-50023754179553514952023-12-12T12:00:00.007+01:002023-12-12T12:00:00.243+01:00What do all the connections on a SLR8000 repeater do?<div style="text-align: left;"> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgIdgaVkvUX9R5lIN8WbZwsGMCgauW3xqnYguezMg3q_8m8BFBBmDXZjZzNdTs4hKY7_dnsJ8_epSCIztpSPgAedOM9vx8bGy-Xe_0AcUvTKUShvBgWCoSei49mgN3NnGct7rf8dNpiKorjekFvHSYCBuP_mu1q2FOjIyx_B0P6t2oNf5_FEG78SxkAoj_T/s1280/andros-back-1.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="720" data-original-width="1280" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgIdgaVkvUX9R5lIN8WbZwsGMCgauW3xqnYguezMg3q_8m8BFBBmDXZjZzNdTs4hKY7_dnsJ8_epSCIztpSPgAedOM9vx8bGy-Xe_0AcUvTKUShvBgWCoSei49mgN3NnGct7rf8dNpiKorjekFvHSYCBuP_mu1q2FOjIyx_B0P6t2oNf5_FEG78SxkAoj_T/s16000/andros-back-1.jpg" /></a></div><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">The Motorola SLR8000 is a high-performance 100W repeater designed to provide reliable two-way radio communication coverage for large-scale and mission-critical applications. It supports both analogue and digital DMR operation. It has some interesting features such as; built-in wireline; local digital audio; an optional built-in preselector and antenna relay.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">On the back are a number of connectors, for most of them it's quite clear what they do but for some of them it's not always very clear.</div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Mains Inlet</h4><div>This is a standard IEC 60320 C14 socket (without the notch) that is used on computers. The SLR8000 is however supplied with a line cord as a standard accessory.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">DC Inlet</h4><div>This is a DC input from a battery backup system or inverter. It cannot be used to charge batteries, for that you will need an external charging system. </div><div>To connect the repeater to a DC supply, you will need cable PMKN4297A. If you like to roll your own, you'll need one Molex <a href="https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/Molex/42816-0212?qs=I2tGkhXPHwMsuzYYMXAzxA%3D%3D">42816-0212</a> plug; two <a href="https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/42815-0011-Cut-Strip?qs=FDnCCYJUPfi2SYBX5K0bIA%3D%3D">42815-0011</a> pins; a 30A 30V fuse; matching fuse holder; a ferrite ring that fits; suitable 6mm² red and 6mm² stranded insulated black wires.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">Wireline Interface</h4><div>Only the leftmost RJ45 socket works. This socket is to be used for Tone Remote or DC Control. The pinouts are as follows:</div><div><br /></div><div>
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<td>Line 2 +</td>
<td>2-wire input/output 4-Wire output 600Ω</td>
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<td>2</td>
<td>Line 2 -</td>
<td>2-wire input/output 4-Wire output 600Ω</td>
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<td>3</td>
<td>Aux 1 In +</td>
<td>Opto-coupled DC loop</td>
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<td>4</td>
<td>Line 1 -</td>
<td>4-Wire input 600Ω</td>
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<td>5</td>
<td>Line 1 +</td>
<td>4-Wire input 600Ω</td>
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<td>6</td>
<td>Aux 1 In -</td>
<td>Opto-coupled DC loop</td>
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<td>7</td>
<td>Aux Out Relay 1</td>
<td>Form A contact. Part of DC Remote Control.</td>
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<td>8</td>
<td>Aux Out Relay</td>
<td>Form A contact. Part of DC Remote Control.</td>
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</div><div><br /></div><div>Most of the settings related to this are in the CPS. On the wireline board itself, there are some jumpers that are not needed for wireline operation but are needed for DC Remote or E&M operation - if you need either of these, I suggest reading the installation manual MN002299A01.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">Receiver Input</h4><div>If no antenna relay is used, the cable from the duplexer or multicoupler will connect here.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">GNSS </h4></div><div>This is currently not used.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Wi-Fi</h4></div><div>This is currently not used.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Circulator Temperature Sense</h4></div><div>A number of external circulator trays are available for this repeater. The required cable comes with the tray. The purpose of this sense line is to measure the temperature of the dummy load used on the circulator. If this dummy load gets hot, it means there is a SWR mismatch or RF is escaping from another repeater and making its way to the circulator. a hot dummy load in this case generates an alarm.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">Transmitter Output</h4><div>If no antenna relay is used, the cable from the duplexer or combiner will connect here.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Ground Terminal</h4></div><div>This allows you to connect the repeater chassis to the cabinet or rack ground using a 6mm ring lug. The mains ground cannot be used or relied on. Apart from R56 non-conformant, in many countries it is not allowed to use the mains for anything other than sensing ground fault conditions.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Antenna Relay</h4></div><div>An antenna relay allows the repeater to be used as an analogue transceiver connected to a dispatch console via E&M; Tone or DC Remote control.</div><div><br /></div><div>An antenna relay cannot be used for ERDM (SFR) or repeater-mode operation!</div><div><br /></div><div>If an antenna relay is used, the antenna will be connected to the antenna socket.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Preselector</h4></div><div>Although outside the scope of this post, the SLR8000 is available with a receive preselector. This improves the receive spurious rejection by around 15dB but will reduce the sensitivity by around 1dB. This component needs to be tuned before use.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">Auxiliary Connector</h4></div><div>This connector is more interesting and provides a number of inputs and outputs from the repeater. It's a standard Subminiature DB25 connector - you'll need a male plug.</div><div><br /></div><div>On this connector is an audio input and output as well as a number of CPS (or RM) configurable General Purpose Input Output lines. There is also a 12V source which will allow you to power (low power) things like repeater controllers. Things like trunking controllers require more power and must use their own power source.</div><div><br /></div><div>
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<td>TX Audio</td>
<td>80mV RMS for 60% deviation. 600Ω</td>
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<td>2</td>
<td>GPIO1</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>3</td>
<td>Not Used.</td>
<td>-</td>
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<td>4</td>
<td>GPIO2.</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>5</td>
<td>GPIO10</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>6</td>
<td>GPIO9</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>7</td>
<td>RX Audio.</td>
<td>300mV RMS (at 50kΩ) with a 1kΩ nominal impedance.</td>
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<td>8</td>
<td>GPIO6.</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>9</td>
<td>Ground.</td>
<td>Does what it says on the box.</td>
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<td>10</td>
<td>GPIO7</td>
<td>Can also be used for analogue RSSI measurements. See below.</td>
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<td>11</td>
<td>GPIO11.</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>12</td>
<td>GPIO12</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>13</td>
<td>TX Data.</td>
<td>Can be used to send data or CTCSS/DCS when operating in analogue mode.</td>
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<td>14</td>
<td>Not Used.</td>
<td>-</td>
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<td>15</td>
<td>GPIO3</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>16</td>
<td>Ground.</td>
<td>Like it says.</td>
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<td>17</td>
<td>Ground.</td>
<td>""</td>
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<td>18</td>
<td>Ground.</td>
<td>""</td>
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<td>19</td>
<td>Ground.</td>
<td>""</td>
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<td>20</td>
<td>Fused B+.</td>
<td>Provides a 12V source at maximum 1A.</td>
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<td>21</td>
<td>GPIO8</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>22</td>
<td>TX Audio.</td>
<td>80mV RMS for 60% FM deviation. 600Ω impedance.</td>
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<td>23</td>
<td>GPIO4</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>24</td>
<td>GPIO5</td>
<td>CPS configurable input or output. See below.</td>
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<td>25</td>
<td>Not Used.</td>
<td>-</td>
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</div><div>If you are going to be using any of the above GPIOs and any of these will exit the equipment rack or cabinet, you need to include some form of galvanic isolation such as an opto-coupler. Not implementing isolation can result in (expensive) damage to the repeater and/or external equipment.</div><div><br /></div><div>Each of the GPIO can be programmed to one of the following. When configured as an output, normal TTL levels will be used (i.e. <0,5V low; 5V high). In this case, the output comes from the collector of a transistor with an internal 4k7 pull-up resistor. When configured as an input TTL levels also apply, except that anything below 0,8V is regarded as low and anything above 3V as high - with 5V maximum.</div><div><br /></div><div>
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<td>Input</td>
<td>Overrides the alarm generated by a mains fail.</td>
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<td>Antenna Relay</td>
<td>Output</td>
<td>Used to trigger the relay whenever PTT is pressed on the console. Analogue base station mode only.</td>
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<td>CSQ Detect</td>
<td>Output</td>
<td>Will change state whenever carrier is detected. Analogue mode only.</td>
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<td>Channel Select 1-6</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>Will cause the repeater to go to a selected channel by inputting a BCD number using these pins.</td>
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<td>Disable.</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>Disables the repeater. The repeater will do a reset whenever this chnages state.</td>
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<td>External PTT</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>This causes the repeater to transmit. Analogue mode only.</td>
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<td>FCC Type 2 Monitor</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>3</td>
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<td>Football Knockdown</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>3</td>
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<td>Major Alarm</td>
<td>Output</td>
<td>Changes state if a minor alarm occurs. Major alarm also locks the repeater.</td>
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<td>Minor Alarm</td>
<td>Output</td>
<td>Changes state if a minor alarm occurs. If Backup Repeater Connected is ticked this will be summed with Major Alarm.</td>
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<td>Monitor</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>Overrides the squelch condition. Analogue only.</td>
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<td>PL/Talkgroup Detect</td>
<td>Output</td>
<td>Changes state if CTCSS/DCS is detected - if in analogue mode. In digital mode will change state if a talkgroup is busy.</td>
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<td>Repeater Knockdown</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>Disables repeater operation but allows an external controller to have control.</td>
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<td>Reset</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>Makes the repeater do a reboot.</td>
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<td>TX PL Inhibit</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>When asserted will strip CTCSS/DCS from transmissions. Analogue only.</td>
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<td>TX Power Level High</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>Will make the repeater use high power, no matter what the codeplug says.</td>
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<td>Unassigned</td>
<td>Neither</td>
<td>Set any unused GPIOs to this.</td>
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<td>Wireline External COR</td>
<td>Output</td>
<td>-</td>
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<td>Wireline External PTT</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>This will make the repeater transmit and send any audio present on the wireline.</td>
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<td>Wireline Mute Input</td>
<td>Input</td>
<td>-</td>
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<td>Output</td>
<td>-</td>
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<br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">A word on Active Level and Debounce</h4><div>Debounce is only applicable when the GPIO is set up as an input. The duration can also be be defined. Debounce protects the repeater and system from false triggers caused by defective switch or relay contacts.</div><div><br /></div><div>Active Level determines whether the GPIO goes high or low when the configured condition is met.</div><div><br /></div><h4 style="text-align: left;">Ethernet</h4></div><div>Ethernet 1 is standard 802.3 ethernet. Ethernet 2 is not available currently.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">External Reference</h4></div><div>This allows an external high stability oscillator to be connected to the repeater. The internal oscillator can provide 0,5ppm stability provided the temperature remains between -30°C and +60°C.</div><div><br /><h4 style="text-align: left;">USB</h4></div><div>This connector is not currently used.</div><div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjd0HakUBEyEnpsUwSTy_WHKyiXMHt-IhQ65TDrF0SorjUMURhXGnKwlSH_0wPh2_4vtIz3xXBvtSUtomCT9fIZhDoMQEE9xBafKK2oTYyEAeqz3GEz0Jh_4hAn7GriVfqF3oZIntWKQunY6cC50GSNfb0uyeXjLmsfu3TB9fs1unVAWJNka0OqRfMoiQe7/s1280/andros_repeater_slr_8000_front_amy_peterson_8378-1280x1280.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="301" data-original-width="1280" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjd0HakUBEyEnpsUwSTy_WHKyiXMHt-IhQ65TDrF0SorjUMURhXGnKwlSH_0wPh2_4vtIz3xXBvtSUtomCT9fIZhDoMQEE9xBafKK2oTYyEAeqz3GEz0Jh_4hAn7GriVfqF3oZIntWKQunY6cC50GSNfb0uyeXjLmsfu3TB9fs1unVAWJNka0OqRfMoiQe7/s16000/andros_repeater_slr_8000_front_amy_peterson_8378-1280x1280.jpg" /></a></div>On the front, there are two connectors. The one on the left is for a <a href="https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_xu/products/two-way-radio-accessories/audio-accessories/mobile-microphones/gmmn4063b.html#tabcompatibleproducts">GMMN4063B</a> test microphone. The test microphone allows a field technician to PTT the repeater or talk to radio users. This does require the Digital Audio feature licence though. The target talkgroup</div><div><br /></div><div>The other is the USB programming connector. Here you can use the DN9957A cable or a spare <i>printer (USB A-B) cable</i>.<br /><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-59862954576330509712023-12-05T12:00:00.012+01:002023-12-05T13:00:55.186+01:00REPOST: MOTOTRBO and IP 📖<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMiEBLngwcujL3Dc1kHu9uqMecufirXJNENV9h-FP1vKl4p3QdUrtHBSqWi-Vqpu0V8IvGZoBrpwPQf7X7t9LqrKOmAJ6Fdy5gkeI8yu7BfJ45lizFA7YrWUd91NWjekZyBXDTO3Egq2knTnYrFS-77BDDt-310R4cciNc-rS38kofv2hrkotvdx73DeBS/s4512/wood-old-food-symbol-color-business-1057854-pxhere.com.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3093" data-original-width="4512" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMiEBLngwcujL3Dc1kHu9uqMecufirXJNENV9h-FP1vKl4p3QdUrtHBSqWi-Vqpu0V8IvGZoBrpwPQf7X7t9LqrKOmAJ6Fdy5gkeI8yu7BfJ45lizFA7YrWUd91NWjekZyBXDTO3Egq2knTnYrFS-77BDDt-310R4cciNc-rS38kofv2hrkotvdx73DeBS/s16000/wood-old-food-symbol-color-business-1057854-pxhere.com.jpg" /></a></div><br /><p>In 2012, I wrote a post about IP networking in MOTOTRBO. This post got updated a few times and when I was looking at it the other day, I decided to rather consolidate all of that material into a <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aVrXQTJTiwS6E8j6fpfE76IjYJI2PKGbo0OFRq5UlwM/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">document</a> - like the <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2023/11/mototrbo-radio-management-setup-guide.html" target="_blank">MOTOTRBO Radio Management Guide for Technical Staff</a> - and instead update this as time goes by.</p><p>The <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aVrXQTJTiwS6E8j6fpfE76IjYJI2PKGbo0OFRq5UlwM/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">MOTOTRBO and IP Guide</a> can be found <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aVrXQTJTiwS6E8j6fpfE76IjYJI2PKGbo0OFRq5UlwM/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-57599335501799559522023-11-28T14:00:00.006+01:002023-11-28T14:00:00.144+01:00Old and mixed radios on Radio Management<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuS-6i6Hz41-yYIyPX3AYV898isHDB4Bvg9K0eLh1hLGo8BW3BtC_Xo-sg_LwUavLeGrMFx70eopduBWjovJozW0CWL-W0ZB0mVmGcsFiuZxDM9yh3kbPPbRZJrWl7lTb7YihPKc8oGk2i8FV2wvwFXbWH1ult-tINbXemTDFMgeBDYR38vD_EgjiaIlPY/s12806/Single-RM-with-MultipleDPandMNIS.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="9100" data-original-width="12806" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuS-6i6Hz41-yYIyPX3AYV898isHDB4Bvg9K0eLh1hLGo8BW3BtC_Xo-sg_LwUavLeGrMFx70eopduBWjovJozW0CWL-W0ZB0mVmGcsFiuZxDM9yh3kbPPbRZJrWl7lTb7YihPKc8oGk2i8FV2wvwFXbWH1ult-tINbXemTDFMgeBDYR38vD_EgjiaIlPY/s16000/Single-RM-with-MultipleDPandMNIS.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">I got asked the following via my contact form the other day:</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /><b>I'm getting ready to set up my first RM-enabled Cap+ system. I have collected and refurbished a variety of radios like <a href="https://cwh050.mywikis.wiki/wiki/List_of_MOTOTRBO_Models" target="_blank">XPR7550, XPR6550, XPR3500e, XPR3500,</a> and so on. The "customer" is a non-profit and I'm donating the whole thing. Since it's about 65 radios, I'd like to have RM for OTAP abilities (for the radios that support it, and for the rest, Device Programmer stations).</b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br />I have a couple questions:</b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br />How does RM handle mixed codeplug versions and possibly firmware versions? I take it mixed firmware versions would be a different MVO and/or configuration, which is fine as I've gotten almost all of each model are on the same firmware and CP version as each other, but not necessarily as other models. If I have radios with FW 2.09 do I need to use RM 1.x?</b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: left;">There will be no problem with different models and firmware versions. The only thing is that the database will become a bit busier. By this I mean, more configurations will be needed even though all of them contain the same information. There will also be one MVO per model-firmware-enabled-feature.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">If at all possible, try to get all the radios onto the same firmware version and with the same CfS features turned on.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">To save you from having to retype stuff, you can copy sets (e.g. channels; contacts etc.) from one configuration to another. To do this, when editing the configuration, right-button click and choose <i>Copy Set From</i> on the context menu.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiAgCW8EaQghItFLzYcQg8KkV1uOsucuPo1rs1-tPjFno2d6LbnAGF6pizyLAsw0Je_vO4lUUIzA1xDUwTjB9HDw36QhDQmcK81vOfQ5CYqwH1cFzSy72WZN3rzSeAoGlLz1DZ0QCr-kMJxNonO134luoO_WiOoc1kWUTni_6ys_DmL9ha8MKO-dBQLJe-v" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="287" data-original-width="356" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiAgCW8EaQghItFLzYcQg8KkV1uOsucuPo1rs1-tPjFno2d6LbnAGF6pizyLAsw0Je_vO4lUUIzA1xDUwTjB9HDw36QhDQmcK81vOfQ5CYqwH1cFzSy72WZN3rzSeAoGlLz1DZ0QCr-kMJxNonO134luoO_WiOoc1kWUTni_6ys_DmL9ha8MKO-dBQLJe-v" width="298" /></a></div>MOTOTRBO radios and repeaters with firmware versions between R2.0 (firmware version R02.00.xx) and R2.3 (firmware version R02.30.xx) need to be upgraded using CPS 16.0 (828) to R2.4 (R02.40.01) or later. Once upgraded, that radio/repeater can then be added to RM as usual.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">R2.9 (firmware version R02.09.xx.xx) will be no problem. The same applies to their XPR6550 (what we know as a DP3601 in EMEA), this can also be managed from RM <u>but</u> will not support OTAP. No need for RM 1.x (a.k.a. Template Mode)!</div><div style="text-align: left;">The XPR6550 cannot be upgraded beyond R01.12.01 but that's to be expected and will work with the current RM version.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br />We haven't sorted the server config at the install site yet, but I want to get everything as ready as I can. Can I lab this whole thing up on my end in a VM (all components will be on one VM) and then somehow migrate the database or installation to it's final PC?</b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: left;">Yes that is possible. I see two ways of doing this but it depends on what your plans are:</div><div style="text-align: left;"><ol style="text-align: left;"><li>If you are moving from one VM to another, you can make a backup of your VHD and deploy it onto the customers PC using their Hypervisor. Once you have a known-good setup.</li><li>Once you have done all the radio and system configurations done, you make a backup of the database and restore it on the customer's RM server - described here. For this to work, you must have the installer that was used to set up RM on your VM (i.e. the 2,8GG ZIP file).</li></ol></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br />Do you know the minimum specs or how heavy Device Programmer is? I was thinking of sprinkling a few "PC's on sticks" around, similar to one you might use for digital signage, if the app is light enough, so that folks have multiple options to visit to update their radio.</b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiNbq9c0bG8Fee90-Ucl8xStDx7XTCJKzMbjkqCZennywmwUDBiqVFzMDQvYjTQZ_QZNDPyqSR6sLtoOfa7ey01V11A31o2BD9HNN1R87dm1Ro4ZsZBr-EX4uwoiCyJpzSgNBOPGjVXcuWC87GCRhaYlDM_1U4dlWASxD4WIWlfNoC0hng-x9ZTnCZB4V4Z" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="502" data-original-width="1091" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiNbq9c0bG8Fee90-Ucl8xStDx7XTCJKzMbjkqCZennywmwUDBiqVFzMDQvYjTQZ_QZNDPyqSR6sLtoOfa7ey01V11A31o2BD9HNN1R87dm1Ro4ZsZBr-EX4uwoiCyJpzSgNBOPGjVXcuWC87GCRhaYlDM_1U4dlWASxD4WIWlfNoC0hng-x9ZTnCZB4V4Z=s16000" /></a></div><br /></b>There is no hardware specification for a PC just running Device Programmer that only handles USB jobs. While busy with stuff, the processes associated with the Device Programmer only consume around 8MB as far as I can see. So, in my opinion, a low spec PC like you describe would be quite fine - just make sure there is enough memory for Windows and Device Programmer.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">If you will be using Windows 10 on these, may I suggest having a look at <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2019/04/running-windows-10-radio-management.html">this post</a>. There are a few other built-in Windows tools that can also go (e.g. calendar, sticky notes, weather, news etc.) as they aren't needed for Windows to run.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">I would advise against using Atlas OS (an unofficial stripped-down Windows build) as it does not have important stuff like updates and Defender.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj8yK40MF9lRAPXhT4vG4IV1OFHziteFpzsYK47pTCjIL1ofbKIwGnnOJbqcxyisJXc4jy9F0cmTJl1yb2Cm00Q2TBtriJnmZNCgEA33dTN21Ri6Xpn3Ku90Rpkw8aGyf21E_94aDGBwRXn-MXiAQ9mXrL2esUHerOqb92B1YspfncAWgMWA_2vT3HmdUl2" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="395" data-original-width="1091" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj8yK40MF9lRAPXhT4vG4IV1OFHziteFpzsYK47pTCjIL1ofbKIwGnnOJbqcxyisJXc4jy9F0cmTJl1yb2Cm00Q2TBtriJnmZNCgEA33dTN21Ri6Xpn3Ku90Rpkw8aGyf21E_94aDGBwRXn-MXiAQ9mXrL2esUHerOqb92B1YspfncAWgMWA_2vT3HmdUl2=s16000" /></a></div><br />There are a number of small form-factor computers on the refurb market that cost less than €150 and would be perfect for this.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">I have added the above information to the <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18iiwHRjjt-giDDBipwbPzah0FWysIZQLDZ-4B_K_So0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">MOTOTRBO Radio Management Guide for Technical Staff</a>.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-72357131767965108522023-11-20T11:00:00.003+01:002023-11-20T11:15:38.903+01:00November Q&A<span id="docs-internal-guid-c4f9905e-7fff-8d86-b3b9-905932179d56"><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghkXksEKC3ojuvKOj0f8tP9ag-hbWmncMp5ZCKCyGnDp7Pk_pXSXSNV8tvTFjEAToc8LAwJjtevh9gdbRmvu7C7R94iw00U_y03KOy62zYNAKEPsb8uFdd_GlT2r_mmH73wP0aAvBPvP5enXXdsuHFwg6h2lDZeZ8u1BEzenmCpFlastPZpMSpbXyO9EqD/s4000/hand-man-person-black-and-white-white-sitting-901850-pxhere.com.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2248" data-original-width="4000" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghkXksEKC3ojuvKOj0f8tP9ag-hbWmncMp5ZCKCyGnDp7Pk_pXSXSNV8tvTFjEAToc8LAwJjtevh9gdbRmvu7C7R94iw00U_y03KOy62zYNAKEPsb8uFdd_GlT2r_mmH73wP0aAvBPvP5enXXdsuHFwg6h2lDZeZ8u1BEzenmCpFlastPZpMSpbXyO9EqD/s16000/hand-man-person-black-and-white-white-sitting-901850-pxhere.com.jpg" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] I currently have a couple Motorola XPR5550 radios that I am trying to upgrade the firmware on. Both radios are on R02.40.00 which is what they were on when the radios were sold to me. I am currently using CPS 2.0. I'm having trouble upgrading the firmware so far I don't know where to download the latest firmware from. Customer support stated that they could not help me due to the radio being out of warranty. I am trying to upgrade to firmware because I am trying to make the RX audio levelling work on the radios. Customer support stated that the firmware may be the reason for it not working. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.</span></span></div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[A] </span></span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 12pt; white-space-collapse: preserve;">To upgrade the firmware beyond R02.10.08, the radio will need to be on a Software Maintenance Agreement contract. If it is, then you first need to upgrade to R02.10.08; recover the licence and then upgrade to the current release. R02.10.08 enables the Software Update Management feature flag in the radio codeplug.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">If this is a XPR5550 non-e model (what we know as a DM4600 in EMEA), there is a chance that it is no longer supported, in which case, the highest you can go is R02.10.08. Since you are already in contact with customer support in North America, you should ask them about getting this radio onto a SMA. Depending on </span><a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/p/support.html" style="text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">how the radio was procured</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">, you may have to make contact with the Reseller who sold you your equipment.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] I was using the latest CPS2 Software and wrote back to an old DP4801 Radio. The software uncounted an error now the radio continually restarts. Do you maybe have a fix for this?</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[A] It sounds like you bricked the radio. There’s no fix other than to send the radio in to Motorola Solutions for repair.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] How to set up the time/clock in R7 on Automatic via wifi. every time we tried to set it up on automatic it just end up in 01/01/2000 and the time is 00:00.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><div><span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></span></div>[A]<br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="border: none; display: inline-block; height: 131px; overflow: hidden; width: 718px;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><img height="131" src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/qC63-ymzzIDHoKh4QOwwblH0tiqa-82NUDz3_RjEy9HgBFyiFMEqC57JRw5tUZbf39IehutX7A2MtqTqbf-cQyF_oaQQWEwCzXV4O7tN4nx5geLDvhKsqMDC3qPz-CCP13BgXxxfVQftxVI-aPghS1g" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" width="718" /></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Make sure Time Source in General Settings is set to Automatic.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">When set to automatic, the radio will get its time source from GPS or Wi-Fi. This means that in order for the radio to get the time source from GPS, it needs to see some satellites. If not outdoors, the Wi-Fi network to which it is connected needs to pass UDP port 123 from the internet and the radio needs to be able to access pool.ntp.org which is a well-known NTP time source.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">If none of these seem to solve the problem, you need to contact </span><a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/p/support.html" style="text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">technical support</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><br /><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] When I install version 2.138 of Radio Manager and then click on the ‘import radio’ option I am told “You Cannot Perform This Operation Due To Lack Of Permissions”. I get this message even before I am given the option to select the file to import. I get this consistently when installing on either Windows 10 or Windows 11 virtual machines.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">This discovery is with a blank database and a fresh install, but it is born from me trying to update my database from 2.128. I have been consistently unable to update my database, and am instead presented with what appears to be a blank database (though the job history is there, just not the radios). Again, when I click on the ‘import radio’ option I am told “You Cannot Perform This Operation Due To Lack Of Permissions”. As usual, before RM 2.138 opens for the first time, I am told that it will update the database to 2.138. The time it takes to do this is far too short in my opinion, given the database size.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I think the whole problem relates somehow to permissions that are being messed up with in the install somehow… perhaps at an SQL level? I have never had a problem this bad when updating RM. I have once before lost my database on an update but was able to successfully restore it with my backup.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">As per your advice on your blog, I tried running the installer with Admin privileges, with virus protection turned off, and with all windows updates performed. I even tried in compatibility mode and rolling both windows 11 and 10 back to about mid-2021 in case that helped. Each of these was one change at a time (to keep track of the variables).</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I have successfully got 2.138 working with a fresh database on a non virtual machine, but again the database update didn’t work properly. Once I had unsuccessfully tried an import caused the database problem, I uninstalled the software and deleted the SQL database. On reinstall, I no longer had a working version, instead getting the same messages and problems. It feels like there is something I’m missing.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">So, my challenge to you, if you are interested, is to try installing 2.138 on a windows machine and see if you get the same error messages. You could also try updating 2.128 to 2.138. If you do see the same problem, then I would suggest it is likely to be worth a blog post as other users will most likely experience the same issues. Perhaps you will find a way to prevent it, or perhaps you already know of a possible way to fix the issues that 2.138 causes.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[A] I have installed an older version of Radio Management and upgraded to 2.138.176 on a Virtual Machine running Windows Server 2016 Standard. The Hypervisor I use is Proxmox VE 8.0. The installation went smoothly and Radio Management works as expected. The host is on my home network.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I’ve installed older versions on Windows 10 Pro running on Virtualbox and Hyper-V. The results were more or less the same although I was not able to get the v-Switch to pass IP traffic between MNIS and the physical ethernet port.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Just an idea with no supporting evidence: maybe Windows 10 and 11 were not designed to run on a Virtual Machine? Maybe there is something in your Hypervisor that needs to be adjusted to allow the guest OS (and installed software) to access all resources?</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Windows and Virtualisation is slightly out of my province so I’ll let my readers, who are more knowledgeable in this area, weigh in on your problem.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />I will however, try to reproduce the when I have some idle time.<br /><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] Are you open to a few hours of paid consulting to architect RM for a small ~50 MotoTRBO Cap+ radio deployment?</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[A] I'm quite chuffed you asked! No, sorry, I’m not allowed to moonlight and anyway, I have a busy private life at the moment, so free time is in short supply.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] Right now working on an IP site connect project, but is going to take a long time because of the company's IT system, which they are working on. (That's not the problem.) They would like to use something in the meantime, so was thinking about Trbo Link. They have one HQ location and three satellites, all of which have their own Trbo repeaters (let's call them A (HQ), B, C, D. We have a Trbo repeater on a very tall site right in the middle (we will call this HIGH-1) So what I would like to do is use links at each site--- so the Link for Repeater A====transmits to HIGH-1=== HIGH 1 repeats and transmits to Links attached to Repeaters B C D. This should work as far as I can tell.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">You cannot have repeaters talking to each other, like in the analogue days. MOTOTRBO Link requires dedicated link repeaters. </span><a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2018/07/no-los-no-problem.html" style="text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">This post</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"> goes into some detail. </span><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CaKKJKo3XQZIqlVmELK1LfgEs5od_cA_/view" style="text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">This document</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"> might also help.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] I bought a station from the market, motorola sl1600. I would like to change its frequency to PMR 32 channels. Now it only has two. Can you help me?</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">[A] To reconfigure this radio, you will need CPS and the programming cable. This radio uses a USB-A to Micro USB cable which you can find anywhere. More importantly, you will need a spectrum licence from </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_telecommunications_regulatory_bodies" style="font-family: inherit; text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">your local telecommunications regulator</span></a><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="white-space-collapse: preserve;"> and some knowledge to configure the radio to work correctly. My </span></span><span style="white-space-collapse: preserve;">suggestion</span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="white-space-collapse: preserve;"> would be to contact a <a href="https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_xu/partner-finder.html" target="_blank">Motorola Solutions Reseller near you</a> and ask them to help.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[Q] On every dm4600e device, we have a noise signal on the audio line of the rear accessory port at about 3.65kHz. For studio applications, this is an absolute nightmare. Have you ever heard of this, do you know a solution? It really is a problem with the device itself and not with the power supply or ground loops. We have been trying to find a solution for over a year for the more than 100 devices installed.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">[A]I have not seen reports of this. The RX audio output on pin 12 of the accessory connector is high impedance (ca. 10kΩ) and unbalanced. Ground needs to be sourced from pin 14 and not any of the other grounds. </span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">If this is what you have, my suggestion would be to contact technical support. I tried with one radio I have here, using a small audio amplifier but could not hear anything.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">When contacting support, it might help if you could provide the following information - in addition to the usual technical details:</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">How load is this noise (x dB below the 330mV output)?
When is this noise present?</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Does the noise change if the radio is idle and the display turned off?</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Is this noise present when the radio is powered down?</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Is this noise a pure sine/square wave or more spread?
</span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">One or two of my readers may be able to offer some advice here from their own experiences. Using a mobile radio for dispatch applications via a sound card is quite popular and if there was a problem I'd have expected to have seen this before.</span></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><br /></span>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-58382584565361769122023-11-07T14:00:00.005+01:002023-11-15T13:56:21.144+01:00MOTOTRBO Radio Management Guide for Technical Staff 📖<br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXO7i5tSzo2kYvZ9vhP8b3b-yTBD_gGq2prycJFU9tL2A0WUTFLWBQl-ib07xJf3pQHX-Ki8ZKKWJ-qAV5u0CPv5R62wVOW6e0zeavsFpMZtOG3sR_RUfcas18UZdTEe8fs4Tg_GJ85wrKxZub3D5JyV7St4BVHce8-ftKBsOGixIwsaMUA8vHruFrhesE/s7360/desk-writing-work-hand-man-working-596254-pxhere.com.jpg"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXO7i5tSzo2kYvZ9vhP8b3b-yTBD_gGq2prycJFU9tL2A0WUTFLWBQl-ib07xJf3pQHX-Ki8ZKKWJ-qAV5u0CPv5R62wVOW6e0zeavsFpMZtOG3sR_RUfcas18UZdTEe8fs4Tg_GJ85wrKxZub3D5JyV7St4BVHce8-ftKBsOGixIwsaMUA8vHruFrhesE/s16000/desk-writing-work-hand-man-working-596254-pxhere.com.jpg" /></a></div> <br />I have created a MOTOTRBO Radio Management User Guide that covers setup and use. To view and download a copy, <a href="https://bit.ly/3sEAAyU">click here</a>.Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-48054412985618098552023-10-24T14:00:00.000+02:002023-10-24T14:00:00.144+02:00IMPRES Battery Fleet Management: Not Connected to Database<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEGrLtPupPhhZnV6I_Qjyals5V0hYqj5NapJ5mbhl8QDylIrjqdWccnO1YRLQ-395EaDqh8QuylgzeSaQj27M54zqYzF0CrvkRmGY9UUA5GKyWM6DfXE8pgNuMYnzf1rig6PA30Uw-IcgEDtPg77Am4fu4OJfNsqcbInGrCMzP6tQ7s3xA6-FAbTGELR_m/s895/unnamed.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="629" data-original-width="895" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEGrLtPupPhhZnV6I_Qjyals5V0hYqj5NapJ5mbhl8QDylIrjqdWccnO1YRLQ-395EaDqh8QuylgzeSaQj27M54zqYzF0CrvkRmGY9UUA5GKyWM6DfXE8pgNuMYnzf1rig6PA30Uw-IcgEDtPg77Am4fu4OJfNsqcbInGrCMzP6tQ7s3xA6-FAbTGELR_m/s16000/unnamed.png" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: left;">If you are running IMPRES Battery Fleet Management on a Windows server, you might come across this error when opening the Battery Fleet Management web page (user interface).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">The page loads normally but the Connection Status is <span style="color: red;">Not Connected to Database</span>. It should be saying <span style="color: #509650;">Connected to Database</span>. In this case, there were no errors during installation and all updates were installed. Both Windows Server 2022 and Battery Fleet Management are running on a Virtual Machine.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">It turns out that <b>TCP port 8080</b> is blocked by default on Windows Server 2022 (possibly even other versions too). Unblocking this inbound port on the server (Windows Defender Firewall) solved the problem.</div><div style="text-align: left;">The page content is requested and served on TCP port 80 - which is not blocked. This would make the page load but always with the above error. Unblocking TCP port 8080 clears it!</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">You might also be interested in <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2022/08/some-notes-about-installing-impres.html" target="_blank">this post</a> where I go into some of the aspects of installing this software. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">If you look after a number of MOTOTRBO portable two-way radios and use IMPRES batteries, Battery Fleet Management is an excellent tool to keep track on how all these batteries are doing and will save you money. Read more about it <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2022/08/motorola-solutions-best-kept-non-secret.html" target="_blank">here</a>.<br /></div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-29775223550688234502023-10-10T12:00:00.000+02:002023-10-10T12:00:00.262+02:00HP laptop with Windows 10: Wi-Fi keeps on turning off whenever a radio (or ethernet) is connected 😡<div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYtX6yZjvTA8La--PZxaCr1ZAH7U34tcOP0tCavwryb9lVaMKTQfQ-IxTZ9E7wmGizGBmCWX9yHtZVxn5B4lkgS2l5nDcLbjA63olnHo3Qnkcv2ZKVnmVjMLigymAgseSMePhYygoBUUMXgOX21zBvKxTzzQlDbduNAx8S0wdt-8F2Ja8cue0vvvP3c0cI/s322/Annotation%202023-08-23%20182932.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="120" data-original-width="322" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYtX6yZjvTA8La--PZxaCr1ZAH7U34tcOP0tCavwryb9lVaMKTQfQ-IxTZ9E7wmGizGBmCWX9yHtZVxn5B4lkgS2l5nDcLbjA63olnHo3Qnkcv2ZKVnmVjMLigymAgseSMePhYygoBUUMXgOX21zBvKxTzzQlDbduNAx8S0wdt-8F2Ja8cue0vvvP3c0cI/s16000/Annotation%202023-08-23%20182932.png" /></a></div>I recently had this problem on one of my sandbox machines. As soon as you plug in a MOTOTRBO radio, Wi-Fi turns off (i.e. the adapter itself gets turned off and the above blue button goes grey). </div><div>This was something new as I had Windows 10 running on this machine before and never had this problem.</div><div><br /></div><div>As soon as the radio was unplugged or turned off, the PC would turn Wi-Fi on again. Somehow something in Windows was thinking that the radio was a wired internet connection - which it isn't!</div><br /><div>If I tried to turn Wi-Fi on, it'd turn off again almost immediately.</div><div>Disabling Allow Windows to turn this device off to save power did not help and there is no Disabled Upon Wired Connect option in the device properties.</div><div>Updating the device driver made no difference.</div><div>Changing the interface metric does nothing since the adapter gets turned off rather than just disconnecting.</div><div>I found some information on the internet which suggested to modify something in the group policy as well as add an entry to the registry - neither worked.</div><div><br /></div><div>What worked in my case, is to go to Windows Services and look for HP LAN/WLAN/WWAN Switching UWP Service. Disable it and set it to start Manually. Problem solved!</div><div><br /></div><div>Note that this <u>only works on HP</u> computers with Wi-Fi. This is something that presumably came with one of the Windows 10 updates (I have version 10.0.19045). There is no means to uninstall this and I didn't install any HP bloatware. I guess this service makes sense for consumers to prevent them from being connected to the same network via two different connections.</div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhL6D8C4NeAjDBi-vPwcZEjtQbc6bxsx9oD_oa9yB8Mvk9vRtEpwISqWZZC96J_i_sSCGyel4KOjQvxAE26BBAuTWQ2BE7z175OgAjcyHJKUUVU2duVHHT5Oauu05je7e8ERmsE_uQd-yYFUMYa5IyVDepre96uJw22uA-0Jinc65oi5qRPYCIRuCZYS-dg/s641/Annotation%202023-08-23%20182931.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="98" data-original-width="641" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhL6D8C4NeAjDBi-vPwcZEjtQbc6bxsx9oD_oa9yB8Mvk9vRtEpwISqWZZC96J_i_sSCGyel4KOjQvxAE26BBAuTWQ2BE7z175OgAjcyHJKUUVU2duVHHT5Oauu05je7e8ERmsE_uQd-yYFUMYa5IyVDepre96uJw22uA-0Jinc65oi5qRPYCIRuCZYS-dg/s16000/Annotation%202023-08-23%20182931.png" /></a></div><br /></div><div>Other PC vendors may also have something like this. If you know of any, please add it to the comments.</div><div><br /></div><div>This is different from the problems described in these two posts: <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2017/03/error-1687-now-what.html" target="_blank">Error 1687, now what?</a> and <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2013/08/mototrbo-newbie-questions-about.html" target="_blank">MOTOTRBO "Newbie" questions about programming and CPS</a>.</div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-6058499546499023862023-09-26T14:00:00.001+02:002023-09-29T09:29:29.854+02:00I am unable to read a Motorola ION using Radio Management<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEii098GO3d0mgs1TuttabiYmZ9om8XqbQgwesAxeV2cBUQAKiREwQlV3u5dY063PCwZMDLzaXrVGz7j4ILZMGPsfT6QwsVjEHg53hmuEoh1GLwVTevZ5d3hU0pvPBCAVD53f6ScUvRORPaPLbQ_ZyFfsvHZpTpIi0KAGR4uTFJ1M1RsQuQsy37vvJm2TeWx/s5100/MOTOTRBO_Ion_FRT.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="5100" data-original-width="5100" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEii098GO3d0mgs1TuttabiYmZ9om8XqbQgwesAxeV2cBUQAKiREwQlV3u5dY063PCwZMDLzaXrVGz7j4ILZMGPsfT6QwsVjEHg53hmuEoh1GLwVTevZ5d3hU0pvPBCAVD53f6ScUvRORPaPLbQ_ZyFfsvHZpTpIi0KAGR4uTFJ1M1RsQuQsy37vvJm2TeWx/s16000/MOTOTRBO_Ion_FRT.png" /></a></div><br /><div><b>I am unable to read a Motorola ION using Radio Management 2.126.157.0. Initially I had problems for the PC to recognize the radio, after installing the drivers, I see that the PC is recognizing the radio. However, after setting the job, RM is left waiting for the radio.</b></div><div><br /></div><div>It is possible to configure MOTOTRBO ION radios using Radio Management. However, these radios will require a once-off configuration update to allow this. </div><div>By default, ION radios can only be configured using Radio Central. While this might be okay for most customers, some may prefer to maintain their configuration data on their own metal.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHi4wdyLV2LPF894kk6MFGwBrNBw9CiaQBwM-oZKm7nLigO1Bcqy06w80mVv66chCZQIiX9QACw6Oa7tgdBh5c_5s-tUjfEvrvVHrzeOB_P_SUDPEmb0eDV1K5sbhScYpXIaBqenavQNojc3a2DE9z3d_98K3AF5rusUOO0SAb34r9kTusRvrxS0GqPLBm/s1006/Screenshot%202023-09-04%20123251.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="594" data-original-width="1006" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHi4wdyLV2LPF894kk6MFGwBrNBw9CiaQBwM-oZKm7nLigO1Bcqy06w80mVv66chCZQIiX9QACw6Oa7tgdBh5c_5s-tUjfEvrvVHrzeOB_P_SUDPEmb0eDV1K5sbhScYpXIaBqenavQNojc3a2DE9z3d_98K3AF5rusUOO0SAb34r9kTusRvrxS0GqPLBm/s16000/Screenshot%202023-09-04%20123251.png" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><ol style="text-align: left;"><li>To do this, first start and log into Radio Central (Radio Central Commercial Client).</li><li>Select the configuration used for the radio(s) you want to manage in Radio Management.</li><li>Open the configuration to edit it and go to the <i>Network</i> set.</li><li>Set <i>Programming Connection</i> to <i><b>On-premises and Cloud</b></i>.</li><li>Save the set and go back to <i>Radio View</i> (button top right).<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3YBjlhfcXbXqiJG0y2YFtQDQC2w7kI_Z4OMgUOYLdSLPaseq9PR9Nix38EDsZsFWH5ZGkgmrQMl6F6yb0G-r4zJDwOvEcmLCYTzJY0In831UCnZvnABzQdymTx_f94g6SOlYIN7CNwiWj9Yn-pxNoCTGcBCqNFvKIQJ_cvPf2ujlyS7sQnRWbrHcy3ghM/s560/Screenshot%202023-09-04%20124606.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="96" data-original-width="560" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3YBjlhfcXbXqiJG0y2YFtQDQC2w7kI_Z4OMgUOYLdSLPaseq9PR9Nix38EDsZsFWH5ZGkgmrQMl6F6yb0G-r4zJDwOvEcmLCYTzJY0In831UCnZvnABzQdymTx_f94g6SOlYIN7CNwiWj9Yn-pxNoCTGcBCqNFvKIQJ_cvPf2ujlyS7sQnRWbrHcy3ghM/s16000/Screenshot%202023-09-04%20124606.png" /></a></li><li>The <i>Modified</i> column will have a purple dot, next to the radio(s) you've just changed this setting on.</li><li>This is optional but you can select the radio(s), right-button click then select <i>Analyse</i> from the content menu. This will check the configuration for any errors. If all is good, the Analyze Results (bottom right) will be green.</li><li>Right button click (once more) on the radio(s) in question and select <i>Schedule Job</i>.</li><li>In the popup, select <i><b>Write</b></i> and optionally tick <i><b>Force immediate update</b></i>. If force immediate update is not ticked, the user will be prompted to install an update. If ticked, the radio will download and install the update then reboot with no user intervention required. If you use the latter you will need to read and accept the warning.</li><li>Make sure the radio is connected to the internet, either via mobile data or Wi-Fi.</li><li>Wait for the write jobs to become complete.</li><li>Connect the radio to the PC hosting Device Programmer using either PMKN4265A or PMKN4230A (yes, both cables will work).</li><li>When connecting for the first time, Windows will not recognise the radio. ION does not use the same driver as the other MOTOTRBO radios. Windows ought to have drivers to support ION, if not you may need to go to Device Manager and update the drivers for the devices listed under <i>Other Devices</i>. When connecting through USB, transmit and receive functionality is disabled.</li><li>Once the drivers are installed, the radio can then be read and written just like any other MOTOTRBO radio. </li></ol></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXtR6ZZ_omzxgZt_gPzSQMtMyJDmLoBwnkyfFm-Du4Gy4zQfAqCV1zooxmdsI5k21iDYvg3mM7YSYtWFwAVPazbO0IHBckt9BTpQdo8IS6RSeOXbqkzmj6mFR_BmfQaI6oeyCtMB33ZgsuExir4JnhrlrhpuRpmqB3uy6xTHi2lhJXmEtRE1iVYD6nBF4O/s332/Screenshot%202023-09-08%20095255.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="291" data-original-width="332" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXtR6ZZ_omzxgZt_gPzSQMtMyJDmLoBwnkyfFm-Du4Gy4zQfAqCV1zooxmdsI5k21iDYvg3mM7YSYtWFwAVPazbO0IHBckt9BTpQdo8IS6RSeOXbqkzmj6mFR_BmfQaI6oeyCtMB33ZgsuExir4JnhrlrhpuRpmqB3uy6xTHi2lhJXmEtRE1iVYD6nBF4O/s16000/Screenshot%202023-09-08%20095255.png" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">The ION shows up in Device Manager as a Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device</span></td></tr></tbody></table><br /><br /><div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8FJoL6YxqjuTiGwNqkmBtY2kUq6SW0MvItpCUwTN3vEVju6rtQym-3lrQvS9s3x3dqFordrdMzfeZW1UVQ9i_I3dWtwH7c62ZGQWV2H2n3MmO5FcIIZ5GL14ds0mRoPFt6gA74YFR0nm0aUNoG_hrOIOCGlcAEyS2leWVLQ70y7C_Z7JrzQkKzM1D5D9a/s837/Screenshot%202023-09-08%20095402.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="707" data-original-width="837" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8FJoL6YxqjuTiGwNqkmBtY2kUq6SW0MvItpCUwTN3vEVju6rtQym-3lrQvS9s3x3dqFordrdMzfeZW1UVQ9i_I3dWtwH7c62ZGQWV2H2n3MmO5FcIIZ5GL14ds0mRoPFt6gA74YFR0nm0aUNoG_hrOIOCGlcAEyS2leWVLQ70y7C_Z7JrzQkKzM1D5D9a/s16000/Screenshot%202023-09-08%20095402.png" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Once setup for On-premise, the ION can be read and written like any other MOTOTRBO radio</span></td></tr></tbody></table><br /></div><div>If you plan to use Wi-Fi for programming and the Device Programmer host is not in the same subnet as the Access Point(s) (or you want broadcast messages), you should also add the FQDN or IP address of the Device Programmer host to the <i>Wi-Fi Network</i> set of the radio configuration. The user will still need to connect to the Wi-Fi network if not done already (or you can enroll it using your MDM, if you have one).</div><div><br /></div><div>SWLABR. ION does not currently support OTAP over RF so other than Wi-Fi, your only other option would be to use mobile data and a VPN. Since ION uses Android, you can use your own PPTP; L2TP or IPSec solution.</div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7587218277535567455.post-20281782933849772952023-09-19T14:00:00.022+02:002023-09-19T14:00:00.140+02:00Motorola Radio on a Tait Tier 3 network<div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgsxNDxUsJe1JjDiBQJCFy0fKfQdBc4KEnBJ_4CuqMIp-AKoIChckZNUkIhUKTtKfHRF-MTsFyVQ8U_hs8Df1_hfzO6G3G7DDyHj5K6ZGxmvIdWUesBJjX6VYLl0Kx74Yo9aAoeRsjPRRwT69O3J9oHrhFogMDFqRwqLIvMVQxfedJCOmJc3llcCdaS-Zpp/s3850/1356289.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2750" data-original-width="3850" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgsxNDxUsJe1JjDiBQJCFy0fKfQdBc4KEnBJ_4CuqMIp-AKoIChckZNUkIhUKTtKfHRF-MTsFyVQ8U_hs8Df1_hfzO6G3G7DDyHj5K6ZGxmvIdWUesBJjX6VYLl0Kx74Yo9aAoeRsjPRRwT69O3J9oHrhFogMDFqRwqLIvMVQxfedJCOmJc3llcCdaS-Zpp/s16000/1356289.jpg" /></a></div><b>I'm trying to register a Motorola Radio on a <a href="https://www.taitcommunications.com/products/dmr-radio#Networks" target="_blank">Tait Tier 3 network</a>. I am in control over this network, it only consists of one base station with two RF channels. So far I found all that is required, just one open question.</b></div><b><br />Motorola requires a network ID, 0-511 in the "tiny network" config that is used, and I can't find this in the Tait setup. Tait uses the MPT numbering, e.g. 200 2001 21, calculating the normal DMR ID is quite simple then, the result is 3 in this example.</b><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizHFYN5sNBqqfVnujF0dYn02txNdVqmP-G8bz4ZBnhNBAimmMT4RAnvysT7jNPOm8SUIjxF5AOeAFiv8nSrQFe_w4GKSaPc7Zcp81bztN62S-rz8h1Al_FjcsU5HMm22UALNfIpPuvBIqMYwnbyNRVEJKut_n_KwYqDS4IwpL-fz9MwN6cK9GiqBnvRJVt/s689/Screenshot%202023-09-11%20175532.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="113" data-original-width="689" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizHFYN5sNBqqfVnujF0dYn02txNdVqmP-G8bz4ZBnhNBAimmMT4RAnvysT7jNPOm8SUIjxF5AOeAFiv8nSrQFe_w4GKSaPc7Zcp81bztN62S-rz8h1Al_FjcsU5HMm22UALNfIpPuvBIqMYwnbyNRVEJKut_n_KwYqDS4IwpL-fz9MwN6cK9GiqBnvRJVt/s16000/Screenshot%202023-09-11%20175532.png" /></a></div><br /><div>Some vendors have the option of using a MPT1343 numbering scheme on DMR Tier 3. There is more information about <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2017/05/understanding-fleet-number-etc-used-in.html" target="_blank">MPT1343 numbering on DMR in this post</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div>The network size field in the system set, defines the DMR Location Area value. This value in turn determines how many bits can be used for the Network ID. The theory being, that there would be many tiny networks within the same frequency range; yet only a small number of huge networks, in any geographical area. In other words, the more bits you have for DMRLA, the higher the maximum site number can be. This is something that was also borrowed from MPT1327. There is more information about the <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-system-identity-code-and-capacity.html" target="_blank">Network ID and DMRLA in this post.</a></div><div><br /></div><div>I don't have access to any Tait technical information but I believe they call Network ID, DMR Network Code. DMR LA and Network Model have the same name as far as I can tell.</div><div><br /></div><div>Some others things which may help:</div><div><ul style="text-align: left;"><li>Turn off Talkgroup Subscription.</li><li>Make sure that System Type is set to Capacity Max Open Radio. </li><li>Location Area bits needs to be the same as any Tait (or other) radios on the network - or the maximum allowed according to the Network Model.</li><li>The site number (Site ID) in the radio must match the system's site numbering. This should be 1 but you might have it set differently.</li></ul></div><div>All of these are in the system set. Be aware that only <a href="https://dmrassociation.org/downloads/iop-certificates/2018/2018-002%20Tait%20Sys%20Motorola%20BS%20Summary%20Test%20Report%20DMRA%20Tier%203.pdf" target="_blank">some features have been tested</a> and are known to work in this scenario.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>And second question, when I make the channel plan, is the repeater shift 10 or -10 MHz, when using downlink 420 and uplink 410 MHz for the base station?</b></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div>DMR Tier 3 allows for two types of channel plan:</div><div><br /></div><div><b>A fixed or standard channel plan.</b> This would be used when the system frequencies have the same TX-RX separation. The standard channel plan makes use of a Base Frequency - which is the mathematical channel one - and all frequency pairs are represented as channel numbers (Physical Channel ID) based on the step size.</div><div><br /></div><div>MOTOTRBO radios and repeaters allow for up four Segments with up to 4094 channels in total. Each Segment can use different TX-RX spacings - this means that not all the channels have to have the same TX-RX spacing. Here <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W4WEEx1u-sWnz_iKpL3y3F5SqQdOyfpvoIWErHkRIw0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">is an example</a> of how this would work.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>A flexible channel plan.</b> This would be used when none of the frequencies have the same TX-RX separation. You would find this a lot when a customer had an analogue system or two or more companies merged and they kept their existing frequency allocations.</div><div><br /></div><div>MOTOTRBO Capacity Max allows you to use both the standard and flexible channel plans but you need to make sure that there is no channel number conflict between the two - if you will use both. You will also get a warning (not an error) in Radio Management.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzb4KhqKffkvj9lzjxPntwagWsAa3DtAgVqGsgODV_pvINOA6NbqJm71aIQ1hwP-Grt1MIY_nCLTVS3oFkpSiL6OH-1wPisPkZQTUp18761V9m7lav_Mcf-x6gRpPCzgca-4fU2jaHDMvHJIrG4qThKWaVcIWfMpacQZHQTr-QvwIq9v9ZgCv2TA9TaD0e/s1249/Screenshot%202023-09-11%20180412.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="648" data-original-width="1249" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzb4KhqKffkvj9lzjxPntwagWsAa3DtAgVqGsgODV_pvINOA6NbqJm71aIQ1hwP-Grt1MIY_nCLTVS3oFkpSiL6OH-1wPisPkZQTUp18761V9m7lav_Mcf-x6gRpPCzgca-4fU2jaHDMvHJIrG4qThKWaVcIWfMpacQZHQTr-QvwIq9v9ZgCv2TA9TaD0e/s16000/Screenshot%202023-09-11%20180412.png" /></a></div><br /><div>For each Segment in the Fixed Channel Plan, there are five fields:</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Enable.</b> This enables the segment and tells the radio to use the frequencies defined here.</div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b>Number of Channels</b>. This defines the number of channels in that segment. For example, if all four Segments were enabled, and the Number of Channels was set to 1023 in each, then the channels for segment 1 would be 1 to 1023; segment 2 would be 1024 to 2047; segment 3 would be 2048 to 3071 and segment 4 would be 3072 to 4094. The sum of number of channels cannot exceed 4094 so segment 4 would be slightly smaller.</div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b>Frequency Duplex Split.</b> The TX-RX separation for this specific segment. Since you can have up to four segments, you can have up to four variants on TX-RX split. A positive value means that the repeater TX frequency is above the radio TX frequency (the value shown in this field). Entering a negative value reverses this. The valid range for this field is -50 to +50MHz. I have given some possible examples in <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W4WEEx1u-sWnz_iKpL3y3F5SqQdOyfpvoIWErHkRIw0/edit?usp=sharing">this table</a>.</div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b>Subscriber Transmit Frequency Base (MHz).</b> As the name suggests, this is the radio transmit frequency on mathematical channel one (sometimes called Base TX Frequency)</div><div>Frequency Separation (kHz). This is the step size for the channel numbers from the Subscriber Transmit Frequency Base (MHz). One can choose 25kHz but all frequency allocations are 12,5kHz nowadays.</div><div><br /></div><div>In the Flexible Channel Plan you simply would enter channel numbers and frequency pairs. The channel number (Physical Channel ID) must not be in the range used by any segment in the Fixed Channel Plan.</div><div>
</div><div><br /></div><div>You can find out more about <a href="https://cwh050.blogspot.com/2016/05/capacity-max-understanding-fixed-and.html" target="_blank">how channel numbers work in DMR Tier 3 here</a>.</div>Wayne Holmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06901437136364746415noreply@blogger.com